Keep your judging to the skaters, not to the other judges.  Your remarks tonight about Colleen's high marks weren't constructive - they just made you look incredibly stupid, and rather the *** that you look.  You should be replaced next year as you bring the programme down.   

I have difficulty respecting the opinions of both the non-skaters who sit in judgement.

Personally I would welcome one, or both, of them being replaced by last years winner, on a rolling annual basis.

They at least can relate to what the skaters are going through and are likely to be far more constructive in their criticism compared to Jason.

After all it has worked out very well using the beautiful Cheryl Tweedy on the X-Factor.

i agree with you mini,,who does she think she is telling nicky slater,a championship skater,,how to do his job,the woman irritates me big time,,the other judges wait on holly asking them to speak but not ruthie,,she is far too quick to butt in,me thinks she likes the sound of her own voice far too much

I agree with everything that has been said here.   Who the heck does she think she is?   Is it possible that  she has seen how much more coverage Jason has had and therefore trying to jump onto the "nasty" bandwagon??   Why they need two non skating judges baffles me.   I personally think she is a much use as an ashtray on a motorbike!!!

Must mention the horrendous Jason here.   I couldn't believe that he picked up on Roxanne's hands not being at a 90 degree angle.   How picky can you get.   These slebs are trying to stay on their feet fgs, the angle of their hands is really the last thing on their minds.    Would love to see both him and Ruthie on skates, trying to dance and perform and then maybe they would appreciate just how much work the slebs are doing.   They both really need to zip it somewhat

Just had another thought with regard to this hideous woman.   Can you imagine if someone with no Stage experience told her how to do her job?   No I can't either.   I see what Nicky was saying, that although Ray was very much better than either Colleen and Melinda he felt that they should be in 3rd/4th place.  Also was anyone else aware that Nicky was saying that Robin had told them not to score higher than a 5.   Surely if you think a routine is perfect then you should mark it as such.   Just hope Ray doesn't get a bit smug with himself, because we all know that the GBP doesn't like it when judges have favourites!!

I do so agree with you Jilly. Who does that dreadful Ruthie Henshall think she is? She's so obviously is in love with her own self importance. Why do we need her on the panel anyway? Jason is at the very least amusing from time to time and has been there since the first series. Do we really need her (Ruthie Henshall's) vacuous remarks??

I am so angry - Ruth completely spoilt last nights show for me - how DOUBLE DARE SHE - question the integrity of a professional judge, when she know little to nothing about skating.  I cannot understand why she is there in the first place.  It was a brilliant show, made all the better by Todd's antics - he was so funny, but this Monster comes along and spoils the whole atmosphere.  Well done to Nickie for not loosing his rag with her and for sticking by his guns. And well done to all the brilliant and gutsy dancers.

Its about time ITV reconsidered their decision to bring her onto this great show.

 

OMG I have to agree with everyone on this.  Im afraid I didnt take to her last year, but Saturday was the nail in the coffin.  How dare she speak to Nicky like this.  She completely showed herself up. How common....  I think the time has come to rethink the judging panel for next series. !!!!!!!!!

Couldn't agree more about not respecting the views of the non-skating judges.  What ARE they doing there?  Ruthie especially made me so angry on Sunday.  They don't contribute anything of use to the show and their destructive comments spoil the show unlike the positive constructive advice of the other judges.  Please don't bring them back next year.

It seems to me that this pathetic debate over the views and opinions of the 'non-skating' judges surfaces needlessly every year. Yes Ruthie and Jason have no experience on the ice, but they are there (as is pointed out on every live show) to judge the overall PERFORMANCE of the celebrities, NOT their skating ability. That is why they are there, to give a different angle to the skating judges.

In regards to your spiteful comments about Ruthie's comments, I think that some of you should rewatch the show and take into account that the statements she made were in fact justified, even if she did butt in to the conversation. Ruthie rarely does speak over other judges, but I do feel that on this occasion she was justified in doing so. As for you thinking that Ruthie has decided to behave in a manner similar to Jason in order to get herself more airtime - what a load of rubbish - I'm certain Ruthie Henshall has far more important things to worry about in life that the amount of airtime she gets on the judging panel of a reality tv show.

Thank you Ash.  I don't know how many times it needs to be said that Ruthie and Jason are there from a performance and coreography point of view!

 

I totally believe that all the comments that Ruthie has made have been justified, she knows exactly what she is talking about.  Why does anyone believe that Ruthie feels the need to behave in a manner similar to Jason to get more airtime?!!  That is absolutely ridiculous!!!  Most mature adults wouldn't feel the need to do this never mind someone with 22 years experience on the West End and Broadway stage!!!  As Ash has said, Ruthie has far more important things to worry about.

Ash and purplestar, You have both pointed out that Ruthie is there for the performance and Choreography, (it has a "h" in it, purplestar).   Neither of you put "in my opinion" after your posts and obviously feel that what you say is gospel.   I don't care that she has 22 years experience on the "stage" she hasn't skated and seems to not grasp the idea that performing on ice is a dam sight harder than performing on stage.     You both seem to give the impression that the woman is far too good for the show, and has better things to worry about, well I for one, wish she would go back to the stage and do what she does best, because judging an ice dance is not it.     We are all entitled to our opinion, something that both of you seem to have overlooked!!!!

jillydisco,

Firstly, my apologies for not stating that my comments were my opinion, I'd have thought that was obvious enough but never mind.

Secondly, I don't think (yes, thats my opinion) that you can compare the differences between performing on ice and performing on stage - the two are entirely different disciplines.

Thirdly (since you seem so picky about purplestars mistake), it's damN, yes it has an n in it - and thats fact not opinion.

 

 

ash87,

Thank you for your apology.

Secondly, I think you have in actual fact just confirmed what I was saying that you cannot compare  performing on stage with dancing on ice, in which case what is she doing there?   Jason is, unfortunately well enough equipped to comment on the performance aspect, I don't think another of that mould is needed, in my opinion.

 Thirdly, I purposely left the N off dam because on other threads it is considered to be offensive and is blocked out, and I wouldn't want you or purplestars to think I had put anything stronger.

Hi jillydisco

I'm with you completely.  It seems to me (in my opinion!) that whereas the professional skating judges take into consideration they are judging amateur skaters, Ruthie and Jason (particularly Jason) seem to ignore this fact and have far too high expectations.  The fact that they are rude and hurtful too is ...... I think ..... totally unnecessary and unforgiveable.  Are the skating judges ever rude, even when they've just watched a less than great performance?  Phew got that off my chest.