Well I know it was on the wrong messageboard (being as it was on the US elections board) but I thought it might have been moved to this board rather than erased altogether.  Just as I suspected some people don't like free speech if that free speech goes against their own narrow minded view of the world (ie pro globalisation, pro positive discrimination i.e. pro preferential treatment for certain racial & religious groups).  Censoring other people's views?  Not my idea of "liberal".

 

Actually I also noticed that threads to do with the BNP were missing.

People have views they should be aired - thats the only way to get to the truth.  No-one should have the authority to take positive views about any political party off the board because they fear  it may affect them financially.

I've tried a couple of times to reply to your culture hysteria thread but have twice been censored.  Nothing offensive at all in what I said ie that racism seems to be a one-way street in some people's minds when in fact white people can be discriminated against too - after all, what is positive (racial) discrimination if not discrimination against the unfavoured (white) majority?

We are, or were before the coming of Nulabor, a Country of free speach, now we are being muzzled by covert censorship.   Certain words are now 'VERBOTEN' like the short names of Richard and Jeromy, you mustn't say the Norfolk name for a ditch or mention what you would light with a lucifer.   The English language is the richest in the world, it contains word gathered from through out the world, very soon, at this rate we will be locked in a verble straight jacket like the French.   I wonder why the BNP is believed any different from the SNP, PC, SF or MC, they are all National Socialist parties.   We ialso ignore, at our peril, the far left, why?

you see thats where the govt. have been going wrong.  In a bid to establish good relations with ethnic minorities and the money they generate through business into this country, they have forgotten about the needs of their own people.

Changing Britain's indiginous population over the past 40 years leaving us not knowing what culture we are anymore is bound to bring friction.  99% of people in this country  have no quarrel with other cultures, colours or religions - they just want to be assured that we will be able to keep ours and get a fair hearing without being accused of being a racist.

I dont like the way the Govt. ignores the fact that we are losing our identity as English/British people and that is not acceptable.  I would like my children/grandchildren to retain our values, beliefs history, and way of life as well as any ethnic minority parent would.  Its only natural.  But if you arrive in this country you cannot start changing our way of life and fight to bring in laws and rules that only benefit you.

You will find alot of ethnic minorities would like to see a stop to immigration too.

just like with the euro elections threads this is a very delicate subject. i did so many posts which i thought were acceptable considering i wernt being racist or facist but just stating my views and personal experience with living a mixed race/mixed religion society. even now right this minute as i write this i'm thinking am i wasting my time because my freedom of speech is declined yet again.

i was watching itv cental it had a report on the segregation needed in leicester and it is certainly needed in birmingham too. we are NOT in any sense of the word a UNITED country because religions do not interact with each other here my experience being a brummie

most areas like my own are densely populated with 99.9% being white and black race however there are many areas which are 99.9% muslim. we are a divided nation not a united nation. a united nation is all races and all religions living side by side as a community however its dosent happen like that there 1 community with white and black and 1 with just muslims elsewhere. races are seperated not united.

the reason why i support partys that will end mass imigration to the uk is because we are filling our town and cities with some people who want our jobs, want our benefits and want what we have but DO NOT want to interact or live alongside the british white community and that has to end. another thing we cannot have in this country is mixed religions clashing and thats what i think has made our country divided. multicultural does not work because of the fact every culture does different things. if an islamic dont like say a christian tradition theyll protest etc yet we wouldnt do that so it drives the community away and then theirs the hate for jewish there is absolutely no end to the division between communitys.

when people enter this county they need a firm telling... you abide by our laws, you accept our tradition and you be a community with everyone no matter what their creed or colour is! if not then dont come!

ashjames:

just like with the euro elections threads this is a very delicate subject. i did so many posts which i thought were acceptable considering i wernt being racist or facist but just stating my views and personal experience with living a mixed race/mixed religion society. even now right this minute as i write this i'm thinking am i wasting my time because my freedom of speech is declined yet again.

i was watching itv cental it had a report on the segregation needed in leicester and it is certainly needed in birmingham too. we are NOT in any sense of the word a UNITED country because religions do not interact with each other here my experience being a brummie

most areas like my own are densely populated with 99.9% being white and black race however there are many areas which are 99.9% muslim. we are a divided nation not a united nation. a united nation is all races and all religions living side by side as a community however its dosent happen like that there 1 community with white and black and 1 with just muslims elsewhere. races are seperated not united.

the reason why i support partys that will end mass imigration to the uk is because we are filling our town and cities with some people who want our jobs, want our benefits and want what we have but DO NOT want to interact or live alongside the british white community and that has to end. another thing we cannot have in this country is mixed religions clashing and thats what i think has made our country divided. multicultural does not work because of the fact every culture does different things. if an islamic dont like say a christian tradition theyll protest etc yet we wouldnt do that so it drives the community away and then theirs the hate for jewish there is absolutely no end to the division between communitys.

when people enter this county they need a firm telling... you abide by our laws, you accept our tradition and you be a community with everyone no matter what their creed or colour is! if not then dont come!

i so agree ash, people say its a multicultural country, but when you get fanatics that have been  given homes benefits ,ect and then spout hatred its wrong, they should not be allowed  or made welcome here,  to  try and have long held traditions banned because it offends them is disgraceful. I think we will never  get to a point where we can all live as one and embrace each others religions.  The last prime minister of australia hit the nail on the head. john howard stated...." this is our country, you chose to come here, so accept our lifestyle of get out...  could do with him over here. x  ash, just have a look on google at his magnificent speech on immigrants.

Some people seem to arrive here with an attitude and we're left feeling that we are visitors to our own country.  The Chinese students I work alongside on the other hand couldn't be nicer.  Yes they keep their own culture but they make an effort to speak the language and are always polite (especially the girls).   And the other plus factor is they're not taking jobs away from anyone else but such is the status given to British degrees they feel they have to come here to get a good education.  What a bizarre world we live in.

We are a country in which a various mixture of races live but sadly not as one.     Thats why white English people do not want any more immigrants to come to this country to settle.  We have been taken over in so many ways and our basic culture is worth nothing now.  At one time the rest of the world admired us for our morals, beliefs, culture - not any more.  Youngsters today dont have a clue of how we used to live.

 At one time the rest of the world admired us for our morals, beliefs, culture - not any more. 

We need only look at the likes of Simon Cowell, Anne Robinson, and Russell Brand to see why.   We may have had morals, beliefs and culture but there's always been an underlying snobbery among the British which unfortunately remains to this day and, it seems, will always remain although I don't suppose it's a uniquely British trait. 

The strange thing is though, some people apparently know better than the immigrant population itself what is offensive - these are the ones who do idiotic things like banning Christmas trees from public places or rename one of our favourite nursery rhymes baa baa rainbow sheep.  

I suppose culture is constantly changing and that's not necessarily a bad thing but the loss of the extended family makes us all too aware of any alienation we feel, particularly if immigrants have extended families of their own and so appear to have a tighter community than we do ourselves. 

You will always find snobbery - and in other cultures it is called something else - e.g. different castes.....but is everywhere and always will be whatever country you live in. 

What Im talking about is how we used to live, the values we used to apply, the morals and beliefs we brought our children up by.  Ethnic minorities used to have great respect for us and our culture and country but when immigration took over -  we lost it.   We dont know what the rules are anymore and if every culture is living by their own rules then its going to be pandemonium.  We should have made it clear from the beginning 40 years ago - our country - our culture - apply yourselves to it - or raise your family somewhere else.

Not only are some of us paying the price for immigrants coming over here but we're also, as taxpayers, paying for investments in the developing world which will benefit the multinationals but not us one iota. We're led to believe that as Britain benefitted from exploiting these countries years ago we now have to pay the price - the environment and fairness are cited as reasons for doing so and as law abiding civilized taxpayers we of course have no option but to shell out (unless we want to be jailed) - all so the wealthy can profit yet again.

It's the same old ill informed grumblings then?

Consider the culture that you seem to be bemoaning is lost due to immigration - where has that come from? What is it you are really saying?

Where would Britain be without immigration? I will tell you - a lot worse off than we are now.

From cuisine to business, from sport to language our cultural heritage is a mish mash of the best bits from all over the world. I will not bore you with a list of immigrants to this country who have gone on to enrich it, you all know one or two but just think on - next time you need a Doctor or a Lawyer it might be wise of you not to insist on an "indigenous white english one"

We'd be a lot worse off without immigration?   Tell that to the increasing number of unemployed, homeless people and to those on the ever growing waiting lists of a stretched health service currently being forced to make cut backs because there's not enough money in the pot.

As for the educated immigrants i.e. the doctors and/or lawyers I wouldn't be too sure they're employed because of their skills rather than positive discrimination.

Please! just listen to yourself.

You cant get employed as a Doctor or Lawyer if not adequately qualified, it has absolutely nothing to do with positive discrimination - that is laughable.

so the increasing number of unemployed is all down to immigrants then is it? nothing to do with an economy in recession then?

That stretched NHS you are talking about would be alot more stretched if not for the health professionals employed from overseas.

It is the same old pardigms again and again, people complain and use received wisdom to back it up without really thinking about what they are actually complaining about.