monial:

aveli666:

it is common knowledge that nearly a thousand people work together at mclaren to make their cars. now what you need to understand is that those people are led by hamilton to make the best car for him and his teammate to drive to win both championships in 2010.

in that video hamilton says what he does to push them. i didn't invent it and ask him to say it on the video. he doesn't even know who i am so please don't credit me with that.

there are many other drivers in several teams who also work hard to make f1 cars with the intention of winning both championships. please go and found out how they do it better.... 

Again : " When in doubt, mumble."

in doubt about what? 

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

here, hamilton tells us himself how he got the team to improve the car.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8211911.stm 

First off: Aveli, I think Hamilton is a good driver and I enjoy watching him race. There, that is my stance on Hamilton, so there's no need for you to disappear off on tangents about diseases and other nonsense. Okay?

Back to the point: I have just wasted 9 minutes of my life watching that self-serving claptrap from Hamilton about how he basically sticks his nose into what everyone else is doing, which must get annoying as he says so himself, and he likes to feel as if he has a reasonable understanding of how the various bits of the car work. Fine, good for him.

The point I think you're missing is when he says (this is as close to his quote as I can remember) "When I get into a corner the car does this, and so I then ask the guys 'why is that?'" - that to me suggests a perfectly normal driver/team relationship: Hamilton feels the car do something he doesn't like, he asks the team why that is, the engineers explain, and together they try and find a solution. Hamilton does not dictate to the engineers what to do or how to do it, he gives feedback from inside the car (his job) and the engineers do their jobs.

what is wrong with you then?

i have said nothing about how hamilton does it.

he tells you himself on the video. what he said is what goes on, i don't think you know that better than him.

please! 

Ah, okay, so it wasn't you that wrote "he ask them to explain certain changes in behavior of the car under certain conditions and he suggests to them how to correct it" in a different thread on exactly the same topic?

What happens is, he tells his engineers how the car is behaving, and his engineers figure out how to correct it. Hamilton does not tell hugely experienced engineers and mechanics how to do their jobs, in the same way that they don't tell him how to drive.

And I'm not sure why you're attacking me - my point is that Hamilton does his job well, and so do his engineers, and they work as a team..... which I think is the point you're trying to get across....?

it is common knowledge that nearly a thousand people work together at mclaren to make their cars. now what you need to understand is that those people are led by hamilton to make the best car for him and his teammate to drive to win both championships in 2010.

in that video hamilton says what he does to push them. i didn't invent it and ask him to say it on the video. he doesn't even know who i am so please don't credit me with that.

there are many other drivers in several teams who also work hard to make f1 cars with the intention of winning both championships. please go and found out how they do it better.... 

What on earth are you on about? Are you jealous that Racer's getting all the attention at the moment?

has the truth short circuited your normal circuits? sorry. i didn't mean to.

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

here, hamilton tells us himself how he got the team to improve the car.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8211911.stm 

First off: Aveli, I think Hamilton is a good driver and I enjoy watching him race. There, that is my stance on Hamilton, so there's no need for you to disappear off on tangents about diseases and other nonsense. Okay?

Back to the point: I have just wasted 9 minutes of my life watching that self-serving claptrap from Hamilton about how he basically sticks his nose into what everyone else is doing, which must get annoying as he says so himself, and he likes to feel as if he has a reasonable understanding of how the various bits of the car work. Fine, good for him.

The point I think you're missing is when he says (this is as close to his quote as I can remember) "When I get into a corner the car does this, and so I then ask the guys 'why is that?'" - that to me suggests a perfectly normal driver/team relationship: Hamilton feels the car do something he doesn't like, he asks the team why that is, the engineers explain, and together they try and find a solution. Hamilton does not dictate to the engineers what to do or how to do it, he gives feedback from inside the car (his job) and the engineers do their jobs.

what is wrong with you then?

i have said nothing about how hamilton does it.

he tells you himself on the video. what he said is what goes on, i don't think you know that better than him.

please! 

Ah, okay, so it wasn't you that wrote "he ask them to explain certain changes in behavior of the car under certain conditions and he suggests to them how to correct it" in a different thread on exactly the same topic?

What happens is, he tells his engineers how the car is behaving, and his engineers figure out how to correct it. Hamilton does not tell hugely experienced engineers and mechanics how to do their jobs, in the same way that they don't tell him how to drive.

And I'm not sure why you're attacking me - my point is that Hamilton does his job well, and so do his engineers, and they work as a team..... which I think is the point you're trying to get across....?

it is common knowledge that nearly a thousand people work together at mclaren to make their cars. now what you need to understand is that those people are led by hamilton to make the best car for him and his teammate to drive to win both championships in 2010.

in that video hamilton says what he does to push them. i didn't invent it and ask him to say it on the video. he doesn't even know who i am so please don't credit me with that.

there are many other drivers in several teams who also work hard to make f1 cars with the intention of winning both championships. please go and found out how they do it better.... 

What on earth are you on about? Are you jealous that Racer's getting all the attention at the moment?

I cant believe anyone doubts that it's down to Hamilton. I thought it was common knowledge that hamilton was hanging a picture above his toilet and slipped and banged his head. Thats when he had the idea for the flux capacitor.

 Hamilton then used the flux capacitor to travel forward in time and steal inventions from the future. Now all he does is release one of these inventions every few weeks and claim it as his own.

Thats how the Mclaren got 2.8 secs faster.

It's obvious if you think about it!

jack 67:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

here, hamilton tells us himself how he got the team to improve the car.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8211911.stm 

First off: Aveli, I think Hamilton is a good driver and I enjoy watching him race. There, that is my stance on Hamilton, so there's no need for you to disappear off on tangents about diseases and other nonsense. Okay?

Back to the point: I have just wasted 9 minutes of my life watching that self-serving claptrap from Hamilton about how he basically sticks his nose into what everyone else is doing, which must get annoying as he says so himself, and he likes to feel as if he has a reasonable understanding of how the various bits of the car work. Fine, good for him.

The point I think you're missing is when he says (this is as close to his quote as I can remember) "When I get into a corner the car does this, and so I then ask the guys 'why is that?'" - that to me suggests a perfectly normal driver/team relationship: Hamilton feels the car do something he doesn't like, he asks the team why that is, the engineers explain, and together they try and find a solution. Hamilton does not dictate to the engineers what to do or how to do it, he gives feedback from inside the car (his job) and the engineers do their jobs.

what is wrong with you then?

i have said nothing about how hamilton does it.

he tells you himself on the video. what he said is what goes on, i don't think you know that better than him.

please! 

Ah, okay, so it wasn't you that wrote "he ask them to explain certain changes in behavior of the car under certain conditions and he suggests to them how to correct it" in a different thread on exactly the same topic?

What happens is, he tells his engineers how the car is behaving, and his engineers figure out how to correct it. Hamilton does not tell hugely experienced engineers and mechanics how to do their jobs, in the same way that they don't tell him how to drive.

And I'm not sure why you're attacking me - my point is that Hamilton does his job well, and so do his engineers, and they work as a team..... which I think is the point you're trying to get across....?

it is common knowledge that nearly a thousand people work together at mclaren to make their cars. now what you need to understand is that those people are led by hamilton to make the best car for him and his teammate to drive to win both championships in 2010.

in that video hamilton says what he does to push them. i didn't invent it and ask him to say it on the video. he doesn't even know who i am so please don't credit me with that.

there are many other drivers in several teams who also work hard to make f1 cars with the intention of winning both championships. please go and found out how they do it better.... 

What on earth are you on about? Are you jealous that Racer's getting all the attention at the moment?

I cant believe anyone doubts that it's down to Hamilton. I thought it was common knowledge that hamilton was hanging a picture above his toilet and slipped and banged his head. Thats when he had the idea for the flux capacitor.

 Hamilton then used the flux capacitor to travel forward in time and steal inventions from the future. Now all he does is release one of these inventions every few weeks and claim it as his own.

Thats how the Mclaren got 2.8 secs faster.

It's obvious if you think about it!

very interesting jack67 i am glad that you now understand hamilton is responsible for all things.......

(Sorry, couldn't resist )

mattw42:

jack 67:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

here, hamilton tells us himself how he got the team to improve the car.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8211911.stm 

First off: Aveli, I think Hamilton is a good driver and I enjoy watching him race. There, that is my stance on Hamilton, so there's no need for you to disappear off on tangents about diseases and other nonsense. Okay?

Back to the point: I have just wasted 9 minutes of my life watching that self-serving claptrap from Hamilton about how he basically sticks his nose into what everyone else is doing, which must get annoying as he says so himself, and he likes to feel as if he has a reasonable understanding of how the various bits of the car work. Fine, good for him.

The point I think you're missing is when he says (this is as close to his quote as I can remember) "When I get into a corner the car does this, and so I then ask the guys 'why is that?'" - that to me suggests a perfectly normal driver/team relationship: Hamilton feels the car do something he doesn't like, he asks the team why that is, the engineers explain, and together they try and find a solution. Hamilton does not dictate to the engineers what to do or how to do it, he gives feedback from inside the car (his job) and the engineers do their jobs.

what is wrong with you then?

i have said nothing about how hamilton does it.

he tells you himself on the video. what he said is what goes on, i don't think you know that better than him.

please! 

Ah, okay, so it wasn't you that wrote "he ask them to explain certain changes in behavior of the car under certain conditions and he suggests to them how to correct it" in a different thread on exactly the same topic?

What happens is, he tells his engineers how the car is behaving, and his engineers figure out how to correct it. Hamilton does not tell hugely experienced engineers and mechanics how to do their jobs, in the same way that they don't tell him how to drive.

And I'm not sure why you're attacking me - my point is that Hamilton does his job well, and so do his engineers, and they work as a team..... which I think is the point you're trying to get across....?

it is common knowledge that nearly a thousand people work together at mclaren to make their cars. now what you need to understand is that those people are led by hamilton to make the best car for him and his teammate to drive to win both championships in 2010.

in that video hamilton says what he does to push them. i didn't invent it and ask him to say it on the video. he doesn't even know who i am so please don't credit me with that.

there are many other drivers in several teams who also work hard to make f1 cars with the intention of winning both championships. please go and found out how they do it better.... 

What on earth are you on about? Are you jealous that Racer's getting all the attention at the moment?

I cant believe anyone doubts that it's down to Hamilton. I thought it was common knowledge that hamilton was hanging a picture above his toilet and slipped and banged his head. Thats when he had the idea for the flux capacitor.

 Hamilton then used the flux capacitor to travel forward in time and steal inventions from the future. Now all he does is release one of these inventions every few weeks and claim it as his own.

Thats how the Mclaren got 2.8 secs faster.

It's obvious if you think about it!

very interesting jack67 i am glad that you now understand hamilton is responsible for all things.......

(Sorry, couldn't resist )

No need to say sorry. I am always happy to be schooled.

jack 67:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

mattw42:

aveli666:

here, hamilton tells us himself how he got the team to improve the car.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8211911.stm 

First off: Aveli, I think Hamilton is a good driver and I enjoy watching him race. There, that is my stance on Hamilton, so there's no need for you to disappear off on tangents about diseases and other nonsense. Okay?

Back to the point: I have just wasted 9 minutes of my life watching that self-serving claptrap from Hamilton about how he basically sticks his nose into what everyone else is doing, which must get annoying as he says so himself, and he likes to feel as if he has a reasonable understanding of how the various bits of the car work. Fine, good for him.

The point I think you're missing is when he says (this is as close to his quote as I can remember) "When I get into a corner the car does this, and so I then ask the guys 'why is that?'" - that to me suggests a perfectly normal driver/team relationship: Hamilton feels the car do something he doesn't like, he asks the team why that is, the engineers explain, and together they try and find a solution. Hamilton does not dictate to the engineers what to do or how to do it, he gives feedback from inside the car (his job) and the engineers do their jobs.

what is wrong with you then?

i have said nothing about how hamilton does it.

he tells you himself on the video. what he said is what goes on, i don't think you know that better than him.

please! 

Ah, okay, so it wasn't you that wrote "he ask them to explain certain changes in behavior of the car under certain conditions and he suggests to them how to correct it" in a different thread on exactly the same topic?

What happens is, he tells his engineers how the car is behaving, and his engineers figure out how to correct it. Hamilton does not tell hugely experienced engineers and mechanics how to do their jobs, in the same way that they don't tell him how to drive.

And I'm not sure why you're attacking me - my point is that Hamilton does his job well, and so do his engineers, and they work as a team..... which I think is the point you're trying to get across....?

it is common knowledge that nearly a thousand people work together at mclaren to make their cars. now what you need to understand is that those people are led by hamilton to make the best car for him and his teammate to drive to win both championships in 2010.

in that video hamilton says what he does to push them. i didn't invent it and ask him to say it on the video. he doesn't even know who i am so please don't credit me with that.

there are many other drivers in several teams who also work hard to make f1 cars with the intention of winning both championships. please go and found out how they do it better.... 

What on earth are you on about? Are you jealous that Racer's getting all the attention at the moment?

I cant believe anyone doubts that it's down to Hamilton. I thought it was common knowledge that hamilton was hanging a picture above his toilet and slipped and banged his head. Thats when he had the idea for the flux capacitor.

 Hamilton then used the flux capacitor to travel forward in time and steal inventions from the future. Now all he does is release one of these inventions every few weeks and claim it as his own.

Thats how the Mclaren got 2.8 secs faster.

It's obvious if you think about it!

 

Great Scooooooooot !!!!!

anametoremember:

Now I mean not to get on any of Lewis bashers nerves, but nevertheless in all my years of watching F1, I have never seen a team have such a dramatic turnaround. We also have to remember the dramatic turnaround was with KERS and limited testing.

Say if Kimi was leading McLaren in 2009, hell i would also add Alonso, could McLaren have made such a gain with a lack of testing and KERS in such a short period of time? Renault ditched theirs and Ferrari with KIMI'S opportunity to lead the team ditched their development alltogether.

Also I must say looking at Hamilton in Adu Dhabi pre whoever incharge of Parc feme fiddling with his brakes, he gave new and meaningful meaning to the terms, I brought 7 tenths to a team That wasnt sheer mouth, it was sheer facts.

Of course nothing could happen without the mechanical enigeers at McLaren and all those who test 24/7 with the wind tunnels (goes withouting), but this could be somewhat accredited to King Lewis!!!!!!!

Hamilton has an ability to run the car to the limit of adhesion like no other driver - this is where he gives the most valuable data to the engineers... it's consistent and on the ragged edge.

The other drivers are a lot less consistent and not anywhere near the physical limit of the car.

On the limit data is king for developing a car - the engineers and Hamilton work in synergy to move ahead like no other...

Like you said - put a dodo or a kimi in the 2009 McLaren, it would still be stuck at the back of the pack... where the dodo and Kimi have taken their cars respectively...

RaggedEdge:

anametoremember:

Now I mean not to get on any of Lewis bashers nerves, but nevertheless in all my years of watching F1, I have never seen a team have such a dramatic turnaround. We also have to remember the dramatic turnaround was with KERS and limited testing.

Say if Kimi was leading McLaren in 2009, hell i would also add Alonso, could McLaren have made such a gain with a lack of testing and KERS in such a short period of time? Renault ditched theirs and Ferrari with KIMI'S opportunity to lead the team ditched their development alltogether.

Also I must say looking at Hamilton in Adu Dhabi pre whoever incharge of Parc feme fiddling with his brakes, he gave new and meaningful meaning to the terms, I brought 7 tenths to a team That wasnt sheer mouth, it was sheer facts.

Of course nothing could happen without the mechanical enigeers at McLaren and all those who test 24/7 with the wind tunnels (goes withouting), but this could be somewhat accredited to King Lewis!!!!!!!

Hamilton has an ability to run the car to the limit of adhesion like no other driver ......

 

I guess thats why Buton is WDC, this year.

I have also , seen Hamilton making rain clouds to go away, calling thunders and msking wine out of sheeps' milk

monial:

RaggedEdge:

anametoremember:

Now I mean not to get on any of Lewis bashers nerves, but nevertheless in all my years of watching F1, I have never seen a team have such a dramatic turnaround. We also have to remember the dramatic turnaround was with KERS and limited testing.

Say if Kimi was leading McLaren in 2009, hell i would also add Alonso, could McLaren have made such a gain with a lack of testing and KERS in such a short period of time? Renault ditched theirs and Ferrari with KIMI'S opportunity to lead the team ditched their development alltogether.

Also I must say looking at Hamilton in Adu Dhabi pre whoever incharge of Parc feme fiddling with his brakes, he gave new and meaningful meaning to the terms, I brought 7 tenths to a team That wasnt sheer mouth, it was sheer facts.

Of course nothing could happen without the mechanical enigeers at McLaren and all those who test 24/7 with the wind tunnels (goes withouting), but this could be somewhat accredited to King Lewis!!!!!!!

Hamilton has an ability to run the car to the limit of adhesion like no other driver ......

 

I guess thats why Buton is WDC, this year.

I have also , seen Hamilton making rain clouds to go away, calling thunders and msking wine out of sheeps' milk

That's why the WDC is considered a dodo and a laughing stock... it's the work of the FIA in fudging the rules to ensure they did not lose Brawn, and get it some sponsorship... and also provide false hope for the other ailing teams...

It was also probably used as a whipping tool for beating FOTA with... hence we see the departure of major manufacturers... they don't want their products associated with corruption and negativity...

RaggedEdge:

monial:

RaggedEdge:

anametoremember:

Now I mean not to get on any of Lewis bashers nerves, but nevertheless in all my years of watching F1, I have never seen a team have such a dramatic turnaround. We also have to remember the dramatic turnaround was with KERS and limited testing.

Say if Kimi was leading McLaren in 2009, hell i would also add Alonso, could McLaren have made such a gain with a lack of testing and KERS in such a short period of time? Renault ditched theirs and Ferrari with KIMI'S opportunity to lead the team ditched their development alltogether.

Also I must say looking at Hamilton in Adu Dhabi pre whoever incharge of Parc feme fiddling with his brakes, he gave new and meaningful meaning to the terms, I brought 7 tenths to a team That wasnt sheer mouth, it was sheer facts.

Of course nothing could happen without the mechanical enigeers at McLaren and all those who test 24/7 with the wind tunnels (goes withouting), but this could be somewhat accredited to King Lewis!!!!!!!

Hamilton has an ability to run the car to the limit of adhesion like no other driver ......

 

I guess thats why Buton is WDC, this year.

I have also , seen Hamilton making rain clouds to go away, calling thunders and msking wine out of sheeps' milk

That's why the WDC is considered a dodo and a laughing stock... it's the work of the FIA in fudging the rules to ensure they did not lose Brawn, and get it some sponsorship... and also provide false hope for the other ailing teams...

It was also probably used as a whipping tool for beating FOTA with... hence we see the departure of major manufacturers... they don't want their products associated with corruption and negativity...

great post..predictable but great  :-D

the current f1 champ is a great driver and many people have confirmed that he does deserve the title. i will be surprised if he doesn't win the bbc sports personality of the year because no other sportspersons have acheive great things this year. only one person seem to want to call him a strange name and am pleased to say no one has followed suit.

i fail to understand why some people hate some f1 drivers so much while they've done nothing wrong. should we not appreciate the entertainment they give us all? 

i must say hamilton lead the team well this season to bring it from the the back to the front in such a dramatic manner is unheard of in f1. he assessed every team members work and was the only driver the tema trusted to take them from the bottom to the top.

incredible!