mr f1:

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

But none of those other 19 drivers are comparable to Michael Schumacher...

Michael was fast and got a lot of speed through corners by sliing the rear tires... it's one of the most effective and amazing things I've seen any driver do...

And good on Hamilton for learning from the best, and avoiding the dull cruise driver from the other 19.

Schumacher was the master of adjusting to track and tyres. He drove with slicks in the wet, intermediates on dry, you name it. Schumacher could have run a one stop on any track if he wanted, because he had the skill of being able to look after the tyres. Hamilton cannot chose or adapt or make his tyres last when needed. In tyre management Hamilton is far from Schumacher. I hope he'll learn it, though. 

 I'd suggest you are all comparing a Schumacher after many many years experience in F1 to Lewis at the start of his 2nd season. The boy has a lot to learn clearly - as did Schuey after 1 season, however I believe he shows signs of similar talent. After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

 And Alonso?  He could be in the sport for another decade yet and if Kimi does leave f1 when his contract expires (and I believe he will) I still think Alonso will be first choice for Ferrari. 

mr f1:

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

But none of those other 19 drivers are comparable to Michael Schumacher...

Michael was fast and got a lot of speed through corners by sliing the rear tires... it's one of the most effective and amazing things I've seen any driver do...

And good on Hamilton for learning from the best, and avoiding the dull cruise driver from the other 19.

Schumacher was the master of adjusting to track and tyres. He drove with slicks in the wet, intermediates on dry, you name it. Schumacher could have run a one stop on any track if he wanted, because he had the skill of being able to look after the tyres. Hamilton cannot chose or adapt or make his tyres last when needed. In tyre management Hamilton is far from Schumacher. I hope he'll learn it, though. 

 I'd suggest you are all comparing a Schumacher after many many years experience in F1 to Lewis at the start of his 2nd season. The boy has a lot to learn clearly - as did Schuey after 1 season, however I believe he shows signs of similar talent. After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

That's not too bad - one decent post after five failed attempts by others...

Couldn't agree more - they are the only two who seem to be able deliver performances that go beyond the norm...

Hamilton also thinks his main rival will be Kubica in the end... I guess Ferrari will take note of that in due course...

raikkster:

mr f1:

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

But none of those other 19 drivers are comparable to Michael Schumacher...

Michael was fast and got a lot of speed through corners by sliing the rear tires... it's one of the most effective and amazing things I've seen any driver do...

And good on Hamilton for learning from the best, and avoiding the dull cruise driver from the other 19.

Schumacher was the master of adjusting to track and tyres. He drove with slicks in the wet, intermediates on dry, you name it. Schumacher could have run a one stop on any track if he wanted, because he had the skill of being able to look after the tyres. Hamilton cannot chose or adapt or make his tyres last when needed. In tyre management Hamilton is far from Schumacher. I hope he'll learn it, though. 

 I'd suggest you are all comparing a Schumacher after many many years experience in F1 to Lewis at the start of his 2nd season. The boy has a lot to learn clearly - as did Schuey after 1 season, however I believe he shows signs of similar talent. After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

 And Alonso?  He could be in the sport for another decade yet and if Kimi does leave f1 when his contract expires (and I believe he will) I still think Alonso will be first choice for Ferrari. 

I think Alonso has got a long way to go in F1 yet. He's still a young driver, and I'd love to see him in a ferarri.

I think too much has been grown to be expected of hamilton, yes he's a talented driver, all 20 of them are or they wouldn't be there. I mean he's in a top team of course he's going to be winning race, I doubt he'll win a WDC for a few years yet which i think will be good for him.

I'd put my money on heikki he seems to have the edge over lewis at the mo.

Still. i'd like to see massa lift the trophy this year.  

The fact a driver isn't allowed to push a car to the limit because of FIA specified tires would ring alarm bells...

Errrrm, wasn't this the reason for Ralfs crash at Indy and the following years farce?

After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

Absolutely. As far as Alonsos future goes, lets hope they introduce dummy spitting into the olympics for the lad.

Its also strange how everybody keeps harking on about Mclarens misdemeaner last year, but nobody mentions the fact that Renault did exactly the same thing, which arguably could have helped them wim one WDC!

Lets face it, their rubbish now!

amyyy89:

raikkster:

mr f1:

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

But none of those other 19 drivers are comparable to Michael Schumacher...

Michael was fast and got a lot of speed through corners by sliing the rear tires... it's one of the most effective and amazing things I've seen any driver do...

And good on Hamilton for learning from the best, and avoiding the dull cruise driver from the other 19.

Schumacher was the master of adjusting to track and tyres. He drove with slicks in the wet, intermediates on dry, you name it. Schumacher could have run a one stop on any track if he wanted, because he had the skill of being able to look after the tyres. Hamilton cannot chose or adapt or make his tyres last when needed. In tyre management Hamilton is far from Schumacher. I hope he'll learn it, though. 

 I'd suggest you are all comparing a Schumacher after many many years experience in F1 to Lewis at the start of his 2nd season. The boy has a lot to learn clearly - as did Schuey after 1 season, however I believe he shows signs of similar talent. After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

 And Alonso?  He could be in the sport for another decade yet and if Kimi does leave f1 when his contract expires (and I believe he will) I still think Alonso will be first choice for Ferrari. 

I think Alonso has got a long way to go in F1 yet. He's still a young driver, and I'd love to see him in a ferarri.

I think too much has been grown to be expected of hamilton, yes he's a talented driver, all 20 of them are or they wouldn't be there. I mean he's in a top team of course he's going to be winning race, I doubt he'll win a WDC for a few years yet which i think will be good for him.

I'd put my money on heikki he seems to have the edge over lewis at the mo.

Still. i'd like to see massa lift the trophy this year.  

You are funny, because that was a very good post that got way too inconsistent by the end.

Hekki has only been in F1 since 2007 like Hamilton, but Hamilton has the edge of the experience of leading the title for many races in the season though he lost it in the end, a bit like your post...in his rookie season.

However while Hamilton is only 23 years of age, Heikki is 27 this year so that advantage also swings into Hamilton favour as youth always does.

 Then we have the fact that they were both in GP2, while Heikki was beaten to 1st place by Rosberg, Hamilton was in a class of his own (with Piquet creeping up) and one that with ease.

Hamilton has the edge of Heikki, after all Heikki has had more of the bad luck, only been on the podium once in 3rd place, while Hamilton has made his OWN mistakes he has won and come second on the podium and now seems like he has got his mojo back...and definatly has the edge, and seems more than ready for Monaco to come.

However, heikki has benefited from Alonso's failure and has become on of the luckiest men in F1 to date, he seems at peace, contented, peaceful and at ease with his drive.....and I will place a bet that like Hamilton he will win a WDC in the near future!

RaggedEdge:

mr f1:

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

But none of those other 19 drivers are comparable to Michael Schumacher...

Michael was fast and got a lot of speed through corners by sliing the rear tires... it's one of the most effective and amazing things I've seen any driver do...

And good on Hamilton for learning from the best, and avoiding the dull cruise driver from the other 19.

Schumacher was the master of adjusting to track and tyres. He drove with slicks in the wet, intermediates on dry, you name it. Schumacher could have run a one stop on any track if he wanted, because he had the skill of being able to look after the tyres. Hamilton cannot chose or adapt or make his tyres last when needed. In tyre management Hamilton is far from Schumacher. I hope he'll learn it, though. 

 I'd suggest you are all comparing a Schumacher after many many years experience in F1 to Lewis at the start of his 2nd season. The boy has a lot to learn clearly - as did Schuey after 1 season, however I believe he shows signs of similar talent. After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

That's not too bad - one decent post after five failed attempts by others...

Couldn't agree more - they are the only two who seem to be able deliver performances that go beyond the norm...

Hamilton also thinks his main rival will be Kubica in the end... I guess Ferrari will take note of that in due course...

I cannot remember an instance when MS, early years or not, had to sacrifice an optimum race strategy because he could not get his equipment to work the way he wanted.  One of MS' greatest strengths was to drive round problems presented to him - this is something that LH clearly does not possess.

ptaylor747:

RaggedEdge:

mr f1:

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

But none of those other 19 drivers are comparable to Michael Schumacher...

Michael was fast and got a lot of speed through corners by sliing the rear tires... it's one of the most effective and amazing things I've seen any driver do...

And good on Hamilton for learning from the best, and avoiding the dull cruise driver from the other 19.

Schumacher was the master of adjusting to track and tyres. He drove with slicks in the wet, intermediates on dry, you name it. Schumacher could have run a one stop on any track if he wanted, because he had the skill of being able to look after the tyres. Hamilton cannot chose or adapt or make his tyres last when needed. In tyre management Hamilton is far from Schumacher. I hope he'll learn it, though. 

 I'd suggest you are all comparing a Schumacher after many many years experience in F1 to Lewis at the start of his 2nd season. The boy has a lot to learn clearly - as did Schuey after 1 season, however I believe he shows signs of similar talent. After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

That's not too bad - one decent post after five failed attempts by others...

Couldn't agree more - they are the only two who seem to be able deliver performances that go beyond the norm...

Hamilton also thinks his main rival will be Kubica in the end... I guess Ferrari will take note of that in due course...

I cannot remember an instance when MS, early years or not, had to sacrifice an optimum race strategy because he could not get his equipment to work the way he wanted.  One of MS' greatest strengths was to drive round problems presented to him - this is something that LH clearly does not possess.

No, Kimi is the one that failed to get a very easy win or 2nd place in a vastly superior car... Hamilton made up a basic car performance defecit by executing great racecraft...

The failure was all Bridgestones - the problem was not one of wear, but one of being limited by bad construction. It is Bridgestone responsibility to produce a construction that handles the forces being put throught it by all F1 drivers, and not just the slower ones...

I certainly wouldn't put Bridgestone tires on my car, if it's construction only caters for 98% of driving styles...

ptaylor747:

RaggedEdge:

mr f1:

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

But none of those other 19 drivers are comparable to Michael Schumacher...

Michael was fast and got a lot of speed through corners by sliing the rear tires... it's one of the most effective and amazing things I've seen any driver do...

And good on Hamilton for learning from the best, and avoiding the dull cruise driver from the other 19.

Schumacher was the master of adjusting to track and tyres. He drove with slicks in the wet, intermediates on dry, you name it. Schumacher could have run a one stop on any track if he wanted, because he had the skill of being able to look after the tyres. Hamilton cannot chose or adapt or make his tyres last when needed. In tyre management Hamilton is far from Schumacher. I hope he'll learn it, though. 

 I'd suggest you are all comparing a Schumacher after many many years experience in F1 to Lewis at the start of his 2nd season. The boy has a lot to learn clearly - as did Schuey after 1 season, however I believe he shows signs of similar talent. After 10 years in F1 I dare say Lewis will have adapted his driving style to maximise his speed as Schumacher did. Lets hope he doesn't develop a similar tendancy to ram people of the road or park conveniently to block qualifying (unless its against Renault as i particularly dislike them!).

 Hamilton vs Kubica is the future of F1.

That's not too bad - one decent post after five failed attempts by others...

Couldn't agree more - they are the only two who seem to be able deliver performances that go beyond the norm...

Hamilton also thinks his main rival will be Kubica in the end... I guess Ferrari will take note of that in due course...

I cannot remember an instance when MS, early years or not, had to sacrifice an optimum race strategy because he could not get his equipment to work the way he wanted.  One of MS' greatest strengths was to drive round problems presented to him - this is something that LH clearly does not possess.

I can the year of 2005 and 2006...and then he retired because of it!

You also forget in Schumachers early years, he didnt have the rules that are now impeding flamboyant driving skills! If Schumcher had anything that was in his way, he would usually do something dodgy to over come it. For instance, if Schumacher was in Hamiltons postion at the weekend, his muse would have either came out in time to disturb someones qualifying or defiantly would have been told to hold up all the cars!

Schumcher has exceptional skills, and if he was in a ferrari tomorrow i think he would WIN, massa, hamilton and kimi wouldnt have anything on him, not by the way the ferrari is going and handling. But there are too many stories to tell on schumacher on how he played dodgy to win....and for crying out loud reubens is now going on about it!

I think hamilton has the driving skills of schuey, while he has the fairness of kimi, and personality of mika!...all this while trying to emulate senna!

i disagree.

I think the bridgestone tyres are fine, they worked perfectly well for everyone else! why should they change them if just a couple of drivers can't drive on them?

amyyy89:

i disagree.

I think the bridgestone tyres are fine, they worked perfectly well for everyone else! why should they change them if just a couple of drivers can't drive on them?

 

Yes Scumacher loved those Ferraris didnt he, want to check out his stats for the year 2005?

amyyy89:

i disagree.

I think the bridgestone tyres are fine, they worked perfectly well for everyone else! why should they change them if just a couple of drivers can't drive on them?

If it was down to the tyres, then we would have seen another Indianapolis, or all drivers doing a 3 stopper. Wasn't there even one driver who did a one stop race on the weekend? Surely not on a faulty tyre.

amyyy89:

i disagree.

I think the bridgestone tyres are fine, they worked perfectly well for everyone else! why should they change them if just a couple of drivers can't drive on them?

 

Because the Bridgestone wheel construction is badly designed, and it could cause death... simple as.

RaggedEdge:

amyyy89:

i disagree.

I think the bridgestone tyres are fine, they worked perfectly well for everyone else! why should they change them if just a couple of drivers can't drive on them?

 

Because the Bridgestone wheel construction is badly designed, and it could cause death... simple as.

Any design will eventually fail if it is abused too much. That is not a design fault. Simple, eh.

justrace:

RaggedEdge:

amyyy89:

i disagree.

I think the bridgestone tyres are fine, they worked perfectly well for everyone else! why should they change them if just a couple of drivers can't drive on them?

 

Because the Bridgestone wheel construction is badly designed, and it could cause death... simple as.

Any design will eventually fail if it is abused too much. That is not a design fault. Simple, eh.

Got it, but dont comform and become boring...Pick it up, switch it up and flip up the sky with a 3 stopper!

anametoremember:

justrace:

Any design will eventually fail if it is abused too much. That is not a design fault. Simple, eh.

Got it, but dont comform and become boring...Pick it up, switch it up and flip up the sky with a 3 stopper!

Nothing wrong with that. Unless you want to be the best.