Here here, I agree it is as though we don't count I live with just my partner and myself and two years ago both of us within months of each other were made redundant and we got next to nothing, even though we have always paid our tax and insurance.We had insurance out on everthing loans, credit cards you name it  and when we tried to claim it was as though we were asking for charity. we are still in debt and now it looks like the new business we started last year is not going to make it and we get to start all over again and will most likey lose very thing who is going to be there for us?