@Diver123

 

Ok Darling, I'm not a pumpkin!  Nor am I stupid. If you want to rip his posts apart why not set up your own thread, then we're all happy!

Ha Ha Ha so Pedekay is now Racer 111, must admit agree with you Pedekay I lmao at that one, you've admitted you're a mature woman! Now John T is Racer 111, ok when am I going to be him as well lmao xxxxxx Thanks r1-racing best laugh I've had in ages!

Ha Ha Ha so Pedekay is now Racer 111, must admit agree with you Pedekay I lmao at that one, you've admitted you're a mature woman! Now John T is Racer 111, ok when am I going to be him as well lmao xxxxxx Thanks r1-racing best laugh I've had in ages!

r1_racing:

JohnT:

r1_racing:

krisf1mad:

@ r1-racing and Diver123

 

If you don't like his comments, don't believe in him, simple don't read them. For us who do enjoy reading them then leave us in peace please. Pedekay agree with you 100% 

If you actually enjoy his post I put it to you that you have a very low threshold of what constitutes informative entertainment.

 

Even the kindest hearted members of this forum now concede Racer is a liar.  Why are you justifying his bemused ramblings?

 

 

I don't

and do you wish to repeat that slander before my solicitor

Stand up and fight like a man for once

These aliases are now obvious for all to see. It’s the passionate defence of these posts that give you away Racer. You are only fooling yourself.

 

Come on Mods do your job and start cleaning up this forum before it winds up permanently.

 

 

If the mods want to check out my ip they will find its in the north of england

where racer111's is i have no idea

JohnT:

r1_racing:

JohnT:

r1_racing:

krisf1mad:

@ r1-racing and Diver123

 

If you don't like his comments, don't believe in him, simple don't read them. For us who do enjoy reading them then leave us in peace please. Pedekay agree with you 100% 

If you actually enjoy his post I put it to you that you have a very low threshold of what constitutes informative entertainment.

 

Even the kindest hearted members of this forum now concede Racer is a liar.  Why are you justifying his bemused ramblings?

 

 

I don't

and do you wish to repeat that slander before my solicitor

Stand up and fight like a man for once

These aliases are now obvious for all to see. It’s the passionate defence of these posts that give you away Racer. You are only fooling yourself.

 

Come on Mods do your job and start cleaning up this forum before it winds up permanently.

 

 

If the mods want to check out my ip they will find its in the north of england

where racer111's is i have no idea

He claims Abu Dhabi at the moment; we all know that’s untrue.

For a supposedly technical man of retirement age, you seem somewhat gullible?

 

r1_racing:

 

That really was an awful one racer, even for you.

MODS, please use the IP look up to find exactly which country the server is based.

R1 Racing

I would think that the mod's know what country their server is based in.  I doubt Racer 111 would be posting from a server himself, more than likely a laptop or a mobile of some description.  Yes the mods can track which IP Address the PC/Mobile Device was using at the time of the post, and no this information is not covered by any privacy laws.  The identity of the person who the IP Address is leased to is covered by privacy laws and is only obtainable by court order. Getting the IP Address of the device that posted the post would indeed tell you what country that ISP is listed to and indeed what town.  

However that's not to say that Racer doesn't have a VPN link to his work network and uses that to post from.  We lock our laptops down to connect to the VPN/Corporate network by default and the end user cannot bypass this in anyway shape or form.  This way we have complete control over their web traffic and ensure that our laptops are not involved in surfing for inappropriate content or illegal peer to peer file sharing.  Plus our end users can still access UK based web services which disallow content to users outside of the UK wherever they are in the world.

Diver123:

@Pedekay.

Is not just his reluctance to provide evidence that exposed racer111.

There were inconsistencies in several aspects of his posts, like the time it takes an airplane to travel from point A to point B, Getting time zones completely wrong, posting images straight out of Google...to name but a few.

The man is a compulsive liar, feeding his fantasy world is only going to help deteriorate his mental health. What this guy needs is a severe dose of reality.. that and a god psychiatrist.

I had a look back at old threads, Diver.  You and r1_racing are the two posters who seriously attack Racer, and you started with the Japanese GP.  The inconsistencies were questions which you and r1_racing asked, which were not answered.  For instance, re the time it takes an airplane to travel:

Racer111 "I am writing this on the plane, I think, some ware over the Indian Ocean."

r1-racing  "Really? What Airline do you fly?"

This is the only reference I can find to an airline.  Racer did not reply. 

Re the time zones: 

Racer111  "As it must be only 7-8 am over there and I now a lot of people will be waiting until this afternoon to watch Q1-3, I will not spoil it by posting any info about what has happened today.  Go to go, got a lot of work to do before I get my 4hrs sleep tonight."

 

Diver  "Erm... 7 or 8 was it?  Don't you have a wrist watch so that you can give us the precise time?  Sorry dude but 7 or 8 just doesn't cut it for me, if it is 7am then you may be early for an 8am appointment and if it is 8am the you may be late for a 7am date... Now, what was it, 7 or 8... I am interested . " 

 

This is the reference to time zones.  Racer did not reply.

Diver asked several questions about support races, Racer did not reply.

Racer posted some photos from the Internet, and said that he couldn't take them at the testing facility where he was actually working because of security issues.  These were the Google photos.  jack67 confirmed that the security there was heavy, and r1-racing said "now he admits he is talking to himself".

pt71 suggested that Racer should take a photo of something like his hand holding a newspaper to establish that he was at the race track.  It was also suggested that he could post a photo of his passport.  Diver, you posted a photo of your own passport, and someone asked if you had Photoshop.  f.eric made a good comment: "For a true conspiracy theorist the photo would be easy to explain, either photoshop or an acquaintance at the race emailing a photo of a newspaper..   Proof is so hard to come by these days with all that technology at our fingertips."

 

r1_racing accused cfol, jack67 and John T of being aliases for Racer111.  When they established they weren't he did not apologise.  He now seems to think that I am also Racer111.  I don't suppose I'll get an apology either.

r1_racing and Diver have both made rather patronising and impolite comments, such as Diver "Look son, you have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting" and r1_racing "Seriously, go and do one".  Racer has always been polite.

It seems to me that there are no actual inconsistencies in Racer's posts, as you suggest, Diver.  What it is, is that you have asked Racer some questions to which he has not replied.  This does not make an inconsistency.  He has not answered because he can't, or because he won't, we don't know.  There is no proof either way.

Finally, lympog made a good comment:  "Wow, there is something seriously pathetic about this thread - on all sides...  Seriously folks, grow up - if "rumbling" someone on the internet fills you up with pride (as it appears to do for a number of posters here) then there is something seriously wrong with your lives. " 

Justrace has said it's a shame that Racer has to pretend because he obviously is knowledgeable and can write interesting posts.  I don't know if Racer is pretending, and I don't care either way, I just enjoy the posts.

krisf1mad:

Ha Ha Ha so Pedekay is now Racer 111, must admit agree with you Pedekay I lmao at that one, you've admitted you're a mature woman! Now John T is Racer 111, ok when am I going to be him as well lmao xxxxxx Thanks r1-racing best laugh I've had in ages!

That gave me a chuckle as well, and inspired me to create this

redfrog:

krisf1mad:

Ha Ha Ha so Pedekay is now Racer 111, must admit agree with you Pedekay I lmao at that one, you've admitted you're a mature woman! Now John T is Racer 111, ok when am I going to be him as well lmao xxxxxx Thanks r1-racing best laugh I've had in ages!

That gave me a chuckle as well, and inspired me to create this

Excellent, froggy.  I'm the one on the right, middle row, sitting down.

pedekay

"r1_racing accused cfol, jack67 and John T of being aliases for Racer111.  When they established they weren't he did not apologise.  He now seems to think that I am also Racer111.  I don't suppose I'll get an apology either."r1_racing and Diver have both made rather patronising and impolite comments, such as Diver "Look son, you have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting" and r1_racing "Seriously, go and do one".  Racer has always been polite.

It seems to me that there are no actual inconsistencies in Racer's posts, as you suggest, Diver.  What it is, is that you have asked Racer some questions to which he has not replied.  This does not make an inconsistency.  He has not answered because he can't, or because he won't, we don't know.  There is no proof either way.

Finally, lympog made a good comment:  "Wow, there is something seriously pathetic about this thread - on all sides...  Seriously folks, grow up - if "rumbling" someone on the internet fills you up with pride (as it appears to do for a number of posters here) then there is something seriously wrong with your lives. " 

Justrace has said it's a shame that Racer has to pretend because he obviously is knowledgeable and can write interesting posts.  I don't know if Racer is pretending, and I don't care either way, I just enjoy the posts."

 

I'm with you on this, there really is no need to be so patronising or disparging to fellow posters. I know I have posted several times with lighthearted digs at racer but I feel uncomfortable with some of the posts attacking him. I like many people who use the forum have misgivings over his authenticity but do enjoy reading his posts, even if they contain nothing I don't already know. 

People should just lighten up a little bit and cut the guy some slack, after all he's doing no harm.

 

pedekay:

Diver123:

@Pedekay.

Is not just his reluctance to provide evidence that exposed racer111.

There were inconsistencies in several aspects of his posts, like the time it takes an airplane to travel from point A to point B, Getting time zones completely wrong, posting images straight out of Google...to name but a few.

The man is a compulsive liar, feeding his fantasy world is only going to help deteriorate his mental health. What this guy needs is a severe dose of reality.. that and a god psychiatrist.

I had a look back at old threads, Diver.  You and r1_racing are the two posters who seriously attack Racer, and you started with the Japanese GP.  The inconsistencies were questions which you and r1_racing asked, which were not answered.  For instance, re the time it takes an airplane to travel:

Racer111 "I am writing this on the plane, I think, some ware over the Indian Ocean."

r1-racing  "Really? What Airline do you fly?"

This is the only reference I can find to an airline.  Racer did not reply. 

Re the time zones: 

Racer111  "As it must be only 7-8 am over there and I now a lot of people will be waiting until this afternoon to watch Q1-3, I will not spoil it by posting any info about what has happened today.  Go to go, got a lot of work to do before I get my 4hrs sleep tonight."

 

Diver  "Erm... 7 or 8 was it?  Don't you have a wrist watch so that you can give us the precise time?  Sorry dude but 7 or 8 just doesn't cut it for me, if it is 7am then you may be early for an 8am appointment and if it is 8am the you may be late for a 7am date... Now, what was it, 7 or 8... I am interested . " 

 

This is the reference to time zones.  Racer did not reply.

Diver asked several questions about support races, Racer did not reply.

Racer posted some photos from the Internet, and said that he couldn't take them at the testing facility where he was actually working because of security issues.  These were the Google photos.  jack67 confirmed that the security there was heavy, and r1-racing said "now he admits he is talking to himself".

pt71 suggested that Racer should take a photo of something like his hand holding a newspaper to establish that he was at the race track.  It was also suggested that he could post a photo of his passport.  Diver, you posted a photo of your own passport, and someone asked if you had Photoshop.  f.eric made a good comment: "For a true conspiracy theorist the photo would be easy to explain, either photoshop or an acquaintance at the race emailing a photo of a newspaper..   Proof is so hard to come by these days with all that technology at our fingertips."

 

r1_racing accused cfol, jack67 and John T of being aliases for Racer111.  When they established they weren't he did not apologise.  He now seems to think that I am also Racer111.  I don't suppose I'll get an apology either.

r1_racing and Diver have both made rather patronising and impolite comments, such as Diver "Look son, you have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting" and r1_racing "Seriously, go and do one".  Racer has always been polite.

It seems to me that there are no actual inconsistencies in Racer's posts, as you suggest, Diver.  What it is, is that you have asked Racer some questions to which he has not replied.  This does not make an inconsistency.  He has not answered because he can't, or because he won't, we don't know.  There is no proof either way.

Finally, lympog made a good comment:  "Wow, there is something seriously pathetic about this thread - on all sides...  Seriously folks, grow up - if "rumbling" someone on the internet fills you up with pride (as it appears to do for a number of posters here) then there is something seriously wrong with your lives. " 

Justrace has said it's a shame that Racer has to pretend because he obviously is knowledgeable and can write interesting posts.  I don't know if Racer is pretending, and I don't care either way, I just enjoy the posts.

You see, you keep defending Racers post despite being presented with incontrovertible evidence that he is a deluded liar.

 

Surely somebody of balanced impartiality would take the evidence on board? However your defence gets more venomous as the posts go on and you clearly attempt to divert from the issue in question.

 

This is how you get rumbled mate.

 

I am quite happy to partake in harmless banter and help things along a bit and talk about F1. I was prepared to take racers post at face value as it would be great to actually have a legitimate source within the paddock.  The fact is he fell at the first hurdle when he was questioned by genuine and well read F1 fans who really do know their stuff.  In reality, he wouldn’t fool a 5 year old.

 

A liar is a liar and there will be no apology forthcoming.

 

r1_racing:

pedekay:

Diver123:

@Pedekay.

Is not just his reluctance to provide evidence that exposed racer111.

There were inconsistencies in several aspects of his posts, like the time it takes an airplane to travel from point A to point B, Getting time zones completely wrong, posting images straight out of Google...to name but a few.

The man is a compulsive liar, feeding his fantasy world is only going to help deteriorate his mental health. What this guy needs is a severe dose of reality.. that and a god psychiatrist.

I had a look back at old threads, Diver.  You and r1_racing are the two posters who seriously attack Racer, and you started with the Japanese GP.  The inconsistencies were questions which you and r1_racing asked, which were not answered.  For instance, re the time it takes an airplane to travel:

Racer111 "I am writing this on the plane, I think, some ware over the Indian Ocean."

r1-racing  "Really? What Airline do you fly?"

This is the only reference I can find to an airline.  Racer did not reply. 

Re the time zones: 

Racer111  "As it must be only 7-8 am over there and I now a lot of people will be waiting until this afternoon to watch Q1-3, I will not spoil it by posting any info about what has happened today.  Go to go, got a lot of work to do before I get my 4hrs sleep tonight."

 

Diver  "Erm... 7 or 8 was it?  Don't you have a wrist watch so that you can give us the precise time?  Sorry dude but 7 or 8 just doesn't cut it for me, if it is 7am then you may be early for an 8am appointment and if it is 8am the you may be late for a 7am date... Now, what was it, 7 or 8... I am interested . " 

 

This is the reference to time zones.  Racer did not reply.

Diver asked several questions about support races, Racer did not reply.

Racer posted some photos from the Internet, and said that he couldn't take them at the testing facility where he was actually working because of security issues.  These were the Google photos.  jack67 confirmed that the security there was heavy, and r1-racing said "now he admits he is talking to himself".

pt71 suggested that Racer should take a photo of something like his hand holding a newspaper to establish that he was at the race track.  It was also suggested that he could post a photo of his passport.  Diver, you posted a photo of your own passport, and someone asked if you had Photoshop.  f.eric made a good comment: "For a true conspiracy theorist the photo would be easy to explain, either photoshop or an acquaintance at the race emailing a photo of a newspaper..   Proof is so hard to come by these days with all that technology at our fingertips."

 

r1_racing accused cfol, jack67 and John T of being aliases for Racer111.  When they established they weren't he did not apologise.  He now seems to think that I am also Racer111.  I don't suppose I'll get an apology either.

r1_racing and Diver have both made rather patronising and impolite comments, such as Diver "Look son, you have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting" and r1_racing "Seriously, go and do one".  Racer has always been polite.

It seems to me that there are no actual inconsistencies in Racer's posts, as you suggest, Diver.  What it is, is that you have asked Racer some questions to which he has not replied.  This does not make an inconsistency.  He has not answered because he can't, or because he won't, we don't know.  There is no proof either way.

Finally, lympog made a good comment:  "Wow, there is something seriously pathetic about this thread - on all sides...  Seriously folks, grow up - if "rumbling" someone on the internet fills you up with pride (as it appears to do for a number of posters here) then there is something seriously wrong with your lives. " 

Justrace has said it's a shame that Racer has to pretend because he obviously is knowledgeable and can write interesting posts.  I don't know if Racer is pretending, and I don't care either way, I just enjoy the posts.

You see, you keep defending Racers post despite being presented with incontrovertible evidence that he is a deluded liar.

 

Surely somebody of balanced impartiality would take the evidence on board? However your defence gets more venomous as the posts go on and you clearly attempt to divert from the issue in question.

 

This is how you get rumbled mate.

 

I am quite happy to partake in harmless banter and help things along a bit and talk about F1. I was prepared to take racers post at face value as it would be great to actually have a legitimate source within the paddock.  The fact is he fell at the first hurdle when he was questioned by genuine and well read F1 fans who really do know their stuff.  In reality, he wouldn’t fool a 5 year old.

 

A liar is a liar and there will be no apology forthcoming.

 

So those of us that have defended racer111 are all the same person? So because we hold a different opinion on this matter we are lying, or maybe we are stupid, or deluded or diseased? You remind me of someone else that posts on this forum!

You state you are offended by racers posts but I am afraid on this occasion you have been far more offensive. Racer111 really isn't doing any harm. You are starting to come across as a bully.

Ladies & Gentlemen

Firstly, let me just assure all of you that although new to commenting, I have been reading the boards for some time, I have been watching F1 for several decades (both live and on TV), and I have no aliases of any kind.

I do not know racer 111 or (to my knowledge) any other poster with either single or multiple identities.

I am quite a busy guy - I work full time, and I have a family. This is an important point.

Unlike others who post here, I have other (perhaps not better) things to do than trawl through a lot of specialist F1 sites to get information. I use the BBC website, the ITV website and the forums on both to keep up to date - I suspect I am not alone.

I have no idea whether Racer 111 is in the UK, Abu Dhabi or on the moon at the moment, but perhaps more importantly, I really do not care. What is great so far as I am concerned, is that I can read what appears to be either a first hand account of what has happened, or a synopsis of news from other sites I do not have the time to access. Either way, it is written in a friendly, down to earth manner.

All I can do is echo what others have said - if you enjoy racers posts, read them. If you don't, why raise your blood pressure by reading them?

By the way, if checked, ny IP address is in Abu Dhabi (joke - Warwickshire - not far from the pub close to MIRA that racer mentioned in a recent post - which incidentally is now closed)

pedekay:

Diver123:

@Pedekay.

Is not just his reluctance to provide evidence that exposed racer111.

There were inconsistencies in several aspects of his posts, like the time it takes an airplane to travel from point A to point B, Getting time zones completely wrong, posting images straight out of Google...to name but a few.

The man is a compulsive liar, feeding his fantasy world is only going to help deteriorate his mental health. What this guy needs is a severe dose of reality.. that and a god psychiatrist.

I had a look back at old threads, Diver.  You and r1_racing are the two posters who seriously attack Racer, and you started with the Japanese GP.  The inconsistencies were questions which you and r1_racing asked, which were not answered.  For instance, re the time it takes an airplane to travel:

Racer111 "I am writing this on the plane, I think, some ware over the Indian Ocean."

r1-racing  "Really? What Airline do you fly?"

This is the only reference I can find to an airline.  Racer did not reply. 

Re the time zones: 

Racer111  "As it must be only 7-8 am over there and I now a lot of people will be waiting until this afternoon to watch Q1-3, I will not spoil it by posting any info about what has happened today.  Go to go, got a lot of work to do before I get my 4hrs sleep tonight."

 

Diver  "Erm... 7 or 8 was it?  Don't you have a wrist watch so that you can give us the precise time?  Sorry dude but 7 or 8 just doesn't cut it for me, if it is 7am then you may be early for an 8am appointment and if it is 8am the you may be late for a 7am date... Now, what was it, 7 or 8... I am interested . " 

 

This is the reference to time zones.  Racer did not reply.

Diver asked several questions about support races, Racer did not reply.

Racer posted some photos from the Internet, and said that he couldn't take them at the testing facility where he was actually working because of security issues.  These were the Google photos.  jack67 confirmed that the security there was heavy, and r1-racing said "now he admits he is talking to himself".

pt71 suggested that Racer should take a photo of something like his hand holding a newspaper to establish that he was at the race track.  It was also suggested that he could post a photo of his passport.  Diver, you posted a photo of your own passport, and someone asked if you had Photoshop.  f.eric made a good comment: "For a true conspiracy theorist the photo would be easy to explain, either photoshop or an acquaintance at the race emailing a photo of a newspaper..   Proof is so hard to come by these days with all that technology at our fingertips."

 

r1_racing accused cfol, jack67 and John T of being aliases for Racer111.  When they established they weren't he did not apologise.  He now seems to think that I am also Racer111.  I don't suppose I'll get an apology either.

r1_racing and Diver have both made rather patronising and impolite comments, such as Diver "Look son, you have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting" and r1_racing "Seriously, go and do one".  Racer has always been polite.

It seems to me that there are no actual inconsistencies in Racer's posts, as you suggest, Diver.  What it is, is that you have asked Racer some questions to which he has not replied.  This does not make an inconsistency.  He has not answered because he can't, or because he won't, we don't know.  There is no proof either way.

Finally, lympog made a good comment:  "Wow, there is something seriously pathetic about this thread - on all sides...  Seriously folks, grow up - if "rumbling" someone on the internet fills you up with pride (as it appears to do for a number of posters here) then there is something seriously wrong with your lives. " 

Justrace has said it's a shame that Racer has to pretend because he obviously is knowledgeable and can write interesting posts.  I don't know if Racer is pretending, and I don't care either way, I just enjoy the posts.

It looks like you missed a few bits, pdk. I might have got that one wrong, but racer's first post after his return from Japan was unexpectedly soon and did not fit in with information he gave in other posts regarding his travel arrangements. You also seem to have missed that while he claimed his main business in Japan were customers competing in the support races, those race categories were actually not part of the support races.

There might be perfectly reasonible explanations for all this, but if it was a genuine mistake, it would be easy enough to correct. However, as you found yourself, while racer often enough reacts to other posters, he never reacts to such posts.

If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Considering the effort racer is going through to provide us with his service, and the little effort that would be required to add some credibility, in particular when there are these contradictions, it is rather unlikely that there is much truth in racer's identity.

I said before, and it is still true, I am not really bothered what is the case, but the whole story is more and more unlikely. If I put my finger in the air, my hunch is that racer is not there, but knows somebody who is, like brother or father or something.

redfrog:

krisf1mad:

Ha Ha Ha so Pedekay is now Racer 111, must admit agree with you Pedekay I lmao at that one, you've admitted you're a mature woman! Now John T is Racer 111, ok when am I going to be him as well lmao xxxxxx Thanks r1-racing best laugh I've had in ages!

That gave me a chuckle as well, and inspired me to create this

And here's me waiting for Fozzie Bear to put in an appearance complete with a backdrop of sand dunes, Arabs and camels!