worlie:

It makes you ashamed to say that you are English doesn`t it and it isn`t just abroad it is at home to, seems that morals and pride in themselves has dissapeared in alcoholic stupidity

sadly  all morality and respect has gone ... think  it began when it became an offence to chastise your kids.. the  human rights nutmegs, joining the eu and compensation culture kicked in...feral parents breeding feral kids who are brought up by benefit scroungers and drug addicts,  these kids know of no other way of life, think its normal to steal what they want  and to hell with the consequences.. kids learn by example, i brought 7 kids up  and woe betide them if they overstepped the mark, sometimes just a "look" would suffice, but the young of today know that no punishment  will be afforded to them, if they are  brought before the courts, its all luxury from then on, Prison...what a joke if they are lucky enough to be sent to one, life of riley, so many  plusses and no negativity, like a holiday,  bring back borstal with ex army blokes in charge to knock them into  shape, discipline  has  gone forever,  i knew right from wrong and adhered to it, cos i knew i would  hate the consequences of  doing wrong,. not any more, the  bad behaviour is now rewarded with  benefits that we  law abiding  guys could never afford,   britain has gone to the dogs and  will only get worse unless someone stands up and says" chastise your kids or you will be held responsible... prison WILL be a deterrent....benefits will be stopped for  lazy  idles scroungers.. referendums on smoking debates ect.... immigration halted, we are FULL,.. the   person that  does this gets my vote. i for one, and i am sure there are millions who agree that  we have gone backwards.... bring back the days when you knew right from wrong and knew the results if you chose  to do wrong..   just one last word...... what a fecking shambles  we live in ..progress. what a joke..

I live in the centre of an area in Mallorca that is notorious for binge drinking and I can assure you that it is not just Brits. The French, German, Italian, Roumanian, Russian and Spanish youngsters who wake us up at four in the morning shouting and singing as they stagger back to their hotels are all in the same condition and they all sound the same. Week after week during the holiday season each new group sounds exactly the same as the previous ones.

When I was in that age bracket we behaved in exactly the same manner but we were isolated from civilisation in one or other of Billy Butlins holiday camps where our noise couldn't reach further than the staff.

I don't condone such behaviour I just suffer and put up with it, after all they only have a few days to enjoy.

Bazrev

Thats perfectly true of course, but I fail to see how that helps the debate. We are not concerned with the USA, they certainly won't help us on this issue, it seems to me to be a deflection of responsibility to say other countries 'do it too'.  Keeping the issue 'in house' is our only way forward, and we are still listening to the same questions. We are too tolerant as a nation.

Kendra1 has is bang on the nail. They have nothing to fear, except fear itself. The authorities have no power, or this sort of nonsense would not be such a cancer in our society. The 'bleeding heart liberals' have thrown a spanner into the whole concept of 'deterrent'!!! What sticks out for me, more than anything else, is 'how are these anti-crime organizations, and government bodies asking the same questions today they were asking 25-30 years ago?' Where has the money gone ? In all that time none of them have come up with an answer? These officials are given the answer every day by ordinary citizens, victims of these social misfits. This country needs a stronger collective voice, a less tolerant society is needed, certainly radical change.

scarlatti09:

Kendra1 has is bang on the nail. They have nothing to fear, except fear itself. The authorities have no power, or this sort of nonsense would not be such a cancer in our society. The 'bleeding heart liberals' have thrown a spanner into the whole concept of 'deterrent'!!! What sticks out for me, more than anything else, is 'how are these anti-crime organizations, and government bodies asking the same questions today they were asking 25-30 years ago?' Where has the money gone ? In all that time none of them have come up with an answer? These officials are given the answer every day by ordinary citizens, victims of these social misfits. This country needs a stronger collective voice, a less tolerant society is needed, certainly radical change.

love your bones honey. cant ever see this country  being as "great " as in the 50s and 60s.. when borstal ruled..  with ex army to show the yobs how to behave without retribution or compensation claims for "hurt feelings" we need a  goverment that is not afraid of the pc brigade and say "enough is enough" get ***tough on yobs, anti social brats and sack the groups such as liberty  and all the gormless do gooders.   everone knows right from wrong, do wrong and be punished....... but  i work for the cps and if your parents sleep with sheep it excuses your disgusting behavior.. britain is a joke..

kendra1:

scarlatti09:

Kendra1 has is bang on the nail. They have nothing to fear, except fear itself. The authorities have no power, or this sort of nonsense would not be such a cancer in our society. The 'bleeding heart liberals' have thrown a spanner into the whole concept of 'deterrent'!!! What sticks out for me, more than anything else, is 'how are these anti-crime organizations, and government bodies asking the same questions today they were asking 25-30 years ago?' Where has the money gone ? In all that time none of them have come up with an answer? These officials are given the answer every day by ordinary citizens, victims of these social misfits. This country needs a stronger collective voice, a less tolerant society is needed, certainly radical change.

love your bones honey. cant ever see this country  being as "great " as in the 50s and 60s.. when borstal ruled..  with ex army to show the yobs how to behave without retribution or compensation claims for "hurt feelings" we need a  goverment that is not afraid of the pc brigade and say "enough is enough" get ***tough on yobs, anti social brats and sack the groups such as liberty  and all the gormless do gooders.   everone knows right from wrong, do wrong and be punished....... but  i work for the cps and if your parents sleep with sheep it excuses your disgusting behavior.. britain is a joke..

Look I hear and understand and feel ome of the frustration but neither of you are actually proposing anything, you speak of the need to do this and that but you do not speak of anything that could be an agent of that change..........It is all very well to say that Britain needs a united voice to counteract the pc brigade but where is that unity to come from?

All i can ever see is too much political and polemical rhetoric and there seems to be little in the way of answers forthcoming....

Political parties will certainly not save us, they are too busy simply trying to stay in power but where alse can you have a voice? It is not just britain that is a joke ....it is the whole world

We went to Marmaris in Turkey for our hols this year and the whole place was over-run with binge drinking Brits, which is a shame because the area is one of breathtaking natural beauty, but then how would the wasted wallys know that then they slept all day and spent one half of their waking hours with their heads down the toilet!!!

Sadlly the boozing Brits actually believe that the locals in Marmaris like them, describing them as friends or like members of their family, when most local people in Marmaris hate the way Brits behave, calling them all the names under the sun behind their backs, and my husband should know because he understands Turkish. But the locals have to earn a living so they cater to the booze loving Brits, providing them with all the lovely liquor they can sup, though after a certain hour the locals water down the booze and happily rip off their so called friends.

Personally I hate the term 'binge drinking', it sounds too acceptable and harmless, just a bit of fun, that sort of thing, so I would rather go for the term 'anti-social drinking'.

The bottom line is that we are far too forgiving of alcoholism, and until we can start treating it as another type of drug that destroys the lives of not just the drinker but those he/she damages because of the addiction, we will never see a change in our nation's drinking habits.

 

agree,  when i am abrooad i tend to hide the fact that i am british and revert to my swedish ancestry.  brits cannot handle the booze..

Its a well known fact the Brits have enjoyed the beer for many centuries dating back to tribal Britain. This is nothing new.

What is new is the term "Brits Binge Drinking Abroad".(2/3 years old at least)  Another PC stereotypical statement made by some quango quasy media think tank, which was highlited by Club 18/30 debauchery of what our youngsters were getting up to a couple of years back.

Most comments here centre on gratifying the current state of "OUR" British youth today as useless beer guzling mobs of inhumane piffle centred on debauchery, which is what it is. I am not saying that it isnt an issue btw, as complaints have been spotlighted in the media about feelings of other countries, but if "said" countrys whinge about it, maybe they need to look a little more closely to why this is happening on their doorstep, and then look to their own legal system and Police force who are meant to deal with these issues of unrest. (Very much a grey area btw and i wont open a topic about judiscial systems abroad, as that is another can of worms)

A Country who's Economy depends largely/Solely on the Tourist trade so much so that they ply tourists with as much alcohol and free deals, as to make them paraletic puke ridden and *** panted vomit messes lying in the streets, are asking for trouble. (But hey they need to earn a living too huh ??? !!!) Jeeze, if their encouraging this, then stop bleating about it.

Tour Operators, (18/30 free for alls) working in line with local businesses abroad offering deals, is something that could be looked into. Local Clubs and Pubs offering cheap alcohol to get the trade should be looked at aswell, they should control how much people can drink within their venues and refuse those that are too inebriated. People downing pints of alcohol before going out because it is too expensive in clubs and pubs, could ask the question of why we pay so much tax on our alcohol, could we not argue that this actually encourages people to get half cut before going out? Lets blame the Government ! Lets blame all inclusive as much as you can drink and eat packages !

Is this a new thing that has suddenly crept up to this huge issue which you have all been debating about?> I dont think so, My nan was a favourite of taking the old vodka bottle in the handbag into the working club to save on money. What i didnt see was her getting abusive and smashing said bottle over someones head (Well, only on Bingo nights!!).

What i refuse to believe is that we are the "ONLY" country with this "issue". What i do believe is that we may be the only country who have the balls to admit that yes indeed, we do have an issue.

I donot have the luxury of removing my "Born in Britain" badge, when it suits me. So please excuse my very Britishness.

 

 

 

 

kendra1:

agree,  when i am abrooad i tend to hide the fact that i am british and revert to my swedish ancestry.  brits cannot handle the booze..

 

Well I am more than delighted to let everyone know I am Scottish Kendra. We have been tarred with the brush of heavy drinking (as have the Irish) for many a year but we have not suffered through it.

I wonder if it is something in the Celtic blood that enables us to handle our drink better than the English?