pedekay:

psoames:

An amazing circuit, fantastic architecture, beautiful marine craft but ultimately poor racing. Whether this was the fault of the circuit, the fault of the cars or merely the fact that the championship titles have already been awarded, I'm unsure.

It does seem however that different circuits are suitable for different for purposes within the F1 sphere of interest.

We have those which are conducive to racing which suit the motorsport fans; we have those which are sited in exotic and glamourous locales, providing a suitable backdrop for the fashionista and world celebrities to photogrpahed at; we have the older, more traditional circuits that satisfy the historic and traditional claims of the sport whilst appealing to whole sectors of team based fan-dom, and we have those, like Abu Dhabi, that provide a multitude of expensive and exclusive facilities, that are well suited to the business men and the hospitality requirements of the sport.

F1 long ago ceased to be an 'on track' only spectacle. 

F1 these days, is business, advertising revenue, and media manipulation. F1 has long been a soap opera with great interest generated by who's doing what, how, when, where and to whom?

For racing, watch another sport!

Very good post, psoames, that's what I've been thinking too.  If I may quote twinkle_toes in an earlier post on this thread:

"i've said it before and i'll say it again, Bernie, or whoever, are too busy trying to create  'events' instead of creating motoraces. So we get great infrastructure, amazing architecture and dull racing .. thats Valencia, Singapore and now Abu Dhabi. The thing is it only looks good once and thats when you first see it, it soon loses the novelty value and what youre left with is dull racaing (and we'll never have the chance of rain to liven things up!)"

 Bernie is interested in creating a great soap opera, a TV spectacle, all glitter and bling, where he can schmooze with desert princes and C list celebrities.  It's not about the racing at all, it's about entertainment for those who can afford it, and a global audience for the sponsors.  I wonder what some of the famous racers from the past would make of it all.

Imagine this  -  the ghosts of the late, great Jim Clark and Colin Chapman, standing gazing out over Yas Marina circuit.  Colin says "It's Formula 1, Jim, but not as we know it!"      (Sorry, poor taste joke!  )

 

They'd probably say something like "beam me back up for God's sake!" 

andy karter:

pedekay:

psoames:

An amazing circuit, fantastic architecture, beautiful marine craft but ultimately poor racing. Whether this was the fault of the circuit, the fault of the cars or merely the fact that the championship titles have already been awarded, I'm unsure.

It does seem however that different circuits are suitable for different for purposes within the F1 sphere of interest.

We have those which are conducive to racing which suit the motorsport fans; we have those which are sited in exotic and glamourous locales, providing a suitable backdrop for the fashionista and world celebrities to photogrpahed at; we have the older, more traditional circuits that satisfy the historic and traditional claims of the sport whilst appealing to whole sectors of team based fan-dom, and we have those, like Abu Dhabi, that provide a multitude of expensive and exclusive facilities, that are well suited to the business men and the hospitality requirements of the sport.

F1 long ago ceased to be an 'on track' only spectacle. 

F1 these days, is business, advertising revenue, and media manipulation. F1 has long been a soap opera with great interest generated by who's doing what, how, when, where and to whom?

For racing, watch another sport!

Very good post, psoames, that's what I've been thinking too.  If I may quote twinkle_toes in an earlier post on this thread:

"i've said it before and i'll say it again, Bernie, or whoever, are too busy trying to create  'events' instead of creating motoraces. So we get great infrastructure, amazing architecture and dull racing .. thats Valencia, Singapore and now Abu Dhabi. The thing is it only looks good once and thats when you first see it, it soon loses the novelty value and what youre left with is dull racaing (and we'll never have the chance of rain to liven things up!)"

 Bernie is interested in creating a great soap opera, a TV spectacle, all glitter and bling, where he can schmooze with desert princes and C list celebrities.  It's not about the racing at all, it's about entertainment for those who can afford it, and a global audience for the sponsors.  I wonder what some of the famous racers from the past would make of it all.

Imagine this  -  the ghosts of the late, great Jim Clark and Colin Chapman, standing gazing out over Yas Marina circuit.  Colin says "It's Formula 1, Jim, but not as we know it!"      (Sorry, poor taste joke!  )

 

They'd probably say something like "beam me back up for God's sake!" 

LOL Andy 

Actually, I heard that nobody on Star Trek ever said "beam me up", the phrase was always "Energise, Mr Scott" or some such correct statement.  Doesn't have the same ring, does it?

And I also heard of some poor spaced-out bloke in a courtroom on a minor charge, and the judge asked him if he had anything to say before sentencing, and he raised his eyes to the ceiling and said "Beam me up, Scotty".  Laughter in court.

pedekay:

andy karter:

pedekay:

psoames:

An amazing circuit, fantastic architecture, beautiful marine craft but ultimately poor racing. Whether this was the fault of the circuit, the fault of the cars or merely the fact that the championship titles have already been awarded, I'm unsure.

It does seem however that different circuits are suitable for different for purposes within the F1 sphere of interest.

We have those which are conducive to racing which suit the motorsport fans; we have those which are sited in exotic and glamourous locales, providing a suitable backdrop for the fashionista and world celebrities to photogrpahed at; we have the older, more traditional circuits that satisfy the historic and traditional claims of the sport whilst appealing to whole sectors of team based fan-dom, and we have those, like Abu Dhabi, that provide a multitude of expensive and exclusive facilities, that are well suited to the business men and the hospitality requirements of the sport.

F1 long ago ceased to be an 'on track' only spectacle. 

F1 these days, is business, advertising revenue, and media manipulation. F1 has long been a soap opera with great interest generated by who's doing what, how, when, where and to whom?

For racing, watch another sport!

Very good post, psoames, that's what I've been thinking too.  If I may quote twinkle_toes in an earlier post on this thread:

"i've said it before and i'll say it again, Bernie, or whoever, are too busy trying to create  'events' instead of creating motoraces. So we get great infrastructure, amazing architecture and dull racing .. thats Valencia, Singapore and now Abu Dhabi. The thing is it only looks good once and thats when you first see it, it soon loses the novelty value and what youre left with is dull racaing (and we'll never have the chance of rain to liven things up!)"

 Bernie is interested in creating a great soap opera, a TV spectacle, all glitter and bling, where he can schmooze with desert princes and C list celebrities.  It's not about the racing at all, it's about entertainment for those who can afford it, and a global audience for the sponsors.  I wonder what some of the famous racers from the past would make of it all.

Imagine this  -  the ghosts of the late, great Jim Clark and Colin Chapman, standing gazing out over Yas Marina circuit.  Colin says "It's Formula 1, Jim, but not as we know it!"      (Sorry, poor taste joke!  )

 

They'd probably say something like "beam me back up for God's sake!" 

LOL Andy 

Actually, I heard that nobody on Star Trek ever said "beam me up", the phrase was always "Energise, Mr Scott" or some such correct statement.  Doesn't have the same ring, does it?

And I also heard of some poor spaced-out bloke in a courtroom on a minor charge, and the judge asked him if he had anything to say before sentencing, and he raised his eyes to the ceiling and said "Beam me up, Scotty".  Laughter in court.

You're quite right, it is 'energise' not 'beam me up'.