justrace:

anametoremember:

justrace:

anametoremember:

Dont know how you managed it, Hamiltons performance just made my weak, best dry weather race I have seen since the late 90's!

That can only mean that you have not been watching F1 since the late 90s. Hamilton's race was good and it enabled him to hold his place on the grid, but not more. It does not compare to many great performances we have seen in the last 10 years.

If people are getting that impression from the weekend it just shows that F1 these days is not what it has been. Tiem for the 2009 rule changes to come. 

Yeah right story maker up on Senna lol

I have been watching it, but kind of fell asleep while it was on when Mika lost a bit of form and left the sport. My fondest memories of F1 was 1998 - 1999, that and Hammashina's performancein Turkey sticks out in my mind EXCITING!

That just shows that your love/hate of certain drivers distorts your vision. It was a good race on the weekend and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it will not rank in my list of best races or extraordinary performances. At least we have seen Hamilton being able to push hard for a number of laps, which he has not shown to such a level in F1 so far. So in that respect I agree with Hamilton, that it was one of his best performances in his F1 career. But still it was not magic, if he gained 10 more seconds and won, then it would have been supreme.

Of course he has shown it before, 2007 Fujiiiiii, Canada, Hungary, Brazil (with all his mistakes), 2007 Oz, bahrain, Malaysia, Spain and Monaco...to name but a few...2008 turkey was just the best, my head is still buzzing!

anametoremember:

 

Any explanation why Kimi was limp today? He had no issues bar a few mistakes in qualifying, what happened there then?

Before the first pits, his car seemed fine and made up ground on Kubica, after that he kind of fell away. Did he have one of his famous " I dont care" moments?

Looking at Massa's car and drive, Kimi's time he made up on Kubica, and the superior car of Ferrari on the whole, how can Kimi explain such an unnescessary drive? I dont think Schumacher would have performed like that if he was in Kimi's seat today. I acknowledge 3rd place is still a good position, but he was in a postion to hussle Hamilton a little more and try and stop Massa's dominance in Istanbul....that is his job!

Lets hope he comes back at Monaco!

I think its not a case of  Kimi doing badly, more that Hamilton did extremely well and surprised him too much.

anametoremember:

Of course he has shown it before, 2007 Fujiiiiii, Canada, Hungary, Brazil (with all his mistakes), 2007 Oz, bahrain, Malaysia, Spain and Monaco...to name but a few...2008 turkey was just the best, my head is still buzzing!

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the best dry race since the late 90s? You must be joking!

RaggedEdge:

justrace:

anametoremember:

justrace:

anametoremember:

Dont know how you managed it, Hamiltons performance just made my weak, best dry weather race I have seen since the late 90's!

That can only mean that you have not been watching F1 since the late 90s. Hamilton's race was good and it enabled him to hold his place on the grid, but not more. It does not compare to many great performances we have seen in the last 10 years.

If people are getting that impression from the weekend it just shows that F1 these days is not what it has been. Tiem for the 2009 rule changes to come. 

Yeah right story maker up on Senna lol

I have been watching it, but kind of fell asleep while it was on when Mika lost a bit of form and left the sport. My fondest memories of F1 was 1998 - 1999, that and Hammashina's performancein Turkey sticks out in my mind EXCITING!

That just shows that your love/hate of certain drivers distorts your vision. It was a good race on the weekend and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it will not rank in my list of best races or extraordinary performances. At least we have seen Hamilton being able to push hard for a number of laps, which he has not shown to such a level in F1 so far. So in that respect I agree with Hamilton, that it was one of his best performances in his F1 career. But still it was not magic, if he gained 10 more seconds and won, then it would have been supreme.

It's the sort of performance you would expect from a young Michael Schumacher... very hard, solid overtaking, and squueezing every drop of performance from the car... gaining more points then the computer simulation thought possible... and let's not forget, beating his main tital rival Kimi to boot, who was in a vastly superior car.

Good job all round...

your imposible,i think maybe you started watching f1 at the begining of last year and have very little knoledge of f1.i think yeah kimi was the right one to fill shumi,s shoes,shumi thinks it was the right choice and kimi proved it by winning the title.ok michael shumacher, kimi is not, but kimi didn`t want that stigma , he`s not like shumi at all, no one will ever be like shumi,not fernando ,not hamilton NO ONE the great michael schumacher is one of a kind,a freak of a racer that the likes of you or me will NEVER see again in our lifetime,face it he will never be emulated EVER.and a true shumi fan i am,i remeber the shumi era when the f1 weekend got close,i got uncontrolable butterflies in my stomatch,saturday qualifing was more intence,then he grabs pole my heart almost flies outta my chest,then sunday the race, couldn`t sleep much the nite before,trying to work out  ferraris tactics,eventuly i sleep, wake early in the morning with hour`s untill the race wondering what to do untill then,then it finally happens,the lights go out,their off my heart this time feels like it`s gonna explode like a bomb,feel soooo excited im almost sick,then as he did many times over, WINS ,victory was for us ferrari and michael fans again!!! this feeling has been lost in time now and will probaly never be felt again, like the feeling i got when schumacher drove a prancing horse to all shumi fans out there,we will always know the truth,and the haters can just keep on hating 

Here is the bottom line kids. Lewis performed well. Did he storm past Massa? No. It took him too long to get past even though he was on a snif of fuel. Not very impressive in my books. He qualified behind every one else who had vastly more fuel on board and a chance of winning ie. ferrari and hekki. He couldn't even close the gap to Kimi when he was behind him on better tyres and kimi was faster than him when the tyre roll was reversed.

Think what you like lewis fans but I am yet to see a stellar win from Lewis. He still hasn't won from off pole position. But hey everyone is entitled to support and 'big up' who they choose...no matter how wrong they are......geddit? I can't help but wonder would all you errr Brits be tooting your little horns about him if he wasn't infact  British? I think not. really begs the question what your support is based on, his driving or his nationality. Personally I think the latter of the two takes priority for you lot.

But hey thats just my opinion

no t.c.:

Here is the bottom line kids. Lewis performed well. Did he storm past Massa? No. It took him too long to get past even though he was on a snif of fuel. Not very impressive in my books. He qualified behind every one else who had vastly more fuel on board and a chance of winning ie. ferrari and hekki. He couldn't even close the gap to Kimi when he was behind him on better tyres and kimi was faster than him when the tyre roll was reversed.

Think what you like lewis fans but I am yet to see a stellar win from Lewis. He still hasn't won from off pole position. But hey everyone is entitled to support and 'big up' who they choose...no matter how wrong they are......geddit? I can't help but wonder would all you errr Brits be tooting your little horns about him if he wasn't infact  British? I think not. really begs the question what your support is based on, his driving or his nationality. Personally I think the latter of the two takes priority for you lot.

But hey thats just my opinion

Yaddy Yaddy Yaddy YAH, that is why Hamilton was disappointed with his qualifying!

But on the whole, I think you are forgetting the gulf in performance of the McLaren to the Ferrari. If McLaren simply as per usual topped their car with 2 laps of more fuel than the Ferraris, the race would have been *** boring.

I have been suggesting for weeks McLaren have to do something, even if they dont win and that is go a little lighter on fuel. You are also forgetting that F1 has been by and inlarge BORING this season, highlights was Kimi and his stunts in Oz, DC and Hamilton ramming into the back of Alonso...revitting.

Hamilton done something different to bridge the gult between that 0.2 seconds Ferrari have over McLaren...and with no tc. His car didnt suit the softs, he stuck to his sliding driving style (and we have seen him look after his tyres this season....and it was BORING) and he really gave it some wellie....not many people could start of 4th in a slightly inferrior car and a tyre issue and finish 2nd on a 3 stopper. Okay I would have been pretty peed if Hamilton ended up 6th or 7th but he got an exciting 2nd, and it wasnt about the 2nd place...to me it simply was about the good old fashion tradition long missed show F1 drivers used to put on and perform!

I dont ever want to see Hamilton driving to look after his tyres, his talent shouldnt be dismished for it...I would be happy to see it all over again, just so I can see a born racer be a PURE BORN RACER! But my only criticism for him would be he has to do better in qualifying next time!

anametoremember:

no t.c.:

Here is the bottom line kids. Lewis performed well. Did he storm past Massa? No. It took him too long to get past even though he was on a snif of fuel. Not very impressive in my books. He qualified behind every one else who had vastly more fuel on board and a chance of winning ie. ferrari and hekki. He couldn't even close the gap to Kimi when he was behind him on better tyres and kimi was faster than him when the tyre roll was reversed.

Think what you like lewis fans but I am yet to see a stellar win from Lewis. He still hasn't won from off pole position. But hey everyone is entitled to support and 'big up' who they choose...no matter how wrong they are......geddit? I can't help but wonder would all you errr Brits be tooting your little horns about him if he wasn't infact  British? I think not. really begs the question what your support is based on, his driving or his nationality. Personally I think the latter of the two takes priority for you lot.

But hey thats just my opinion

Yaddy Yaddy Yaddy YAH, that is why Hamilton was disappointed with his qualifying!

But on the whole, I think you are forgetting the gulf in performance of the McLaren to the Ferrari. If McLaren simply as per usual topped their car with 2 laps of more fuel than the Ferraris, the race would have been *** boring.

I have been suggesting for weeks McLaren have to do something, even if they dont win and that is go a little lighter on fuel. You are also forgetting that F1 has been by and inlarge BORING this season, highlights was Kimi and his stunts in Oz, DC and Hamilton ramming into the back of Alonso...revitting.

Hamilton done something different to bridge the gult between that 0.2 seconds Ferrari have over McLaren...and with no tc. His car didnt suit the softs, he stuck to his sliding driving style (and we have seen him look after his tyres this season....and it was BORING) and he really gave it some wellie....not many people could start of 4th in a slightly inferrior car and a tyre issue and finish 2nd on a 3 stopper. Okay I would have been pretty peed if Hamilton ended up 6th or 7th but he got an exciting 2nd, and it wasnt about the 2nd place...to me it simply was about the good old fashion tradition long missed show F1 drivers used to put on and perform!

I dont ever want to see Hamilton driving to look after his tyres, his talent shouldnt be dismished for it...I would be happy to see it all over again, just so I can see a born racer be a PURE BORN RACER! But my only criticism for him would be he has to do better in qualifying next time!

Errr Your trusted commentators seem to think the gap to Ferrari has closed quite significantly, or did you conveniently forget that for the sake of your limp argument? Enlighten us..please.

By the way I didn't even bother reading the rest of your twaddle post.

Yikes!!! 

no t.c.:

anametoremember:

no t.c.:

Here is the bottom line kids. Lewis performed well. Did he storm past Massa? No. It took him too long to get past even though he was on a snif of fuel. Not very impressive in my books. He qualified behind every one else who had vastly more fuel on board and a chance of winning ie. ferrari and hekki. He couldn't even close the gap to Kimi when he was behind him on better tyres and kimi was faster than him when the tyre roll was reversed.

Think what you like lewis fans but I am yet to see a stellar win from Lewis. He still hasn't won from off pole position. But hey everyone is entitled to support and 'big up' who they choose...no matter how wrong they are......geddit? I can't help but wonder would all you errr Brits be tooting your little horns about him if he wasn't infact  British? I think not. really begs the question what your support is based on, his driving or his nationality. Personally I think the latter of the two takes priority for you lot.

But hey thats just my opinion

Yaddy Yaddy Yaddy YAH, that is why Hamilton was disappointed with his qualifying!

But on the whole, I think you are forgetting the gulf in performance of the McLaren to the Ferrari. If McLaren simply as per usual topped their car with 2 laps of more fuel than the Ferraris, the race would have been *** boring.

I have been suggesting for weeks McLaren have to do something, even if they dont win and that is go a little lighter on fuel. You are also forgetting that F1 has been by and inlarge BORING this season, highlights was Kimi and his stunts in Oz, DC and Hamilton ramming into the back of Alonso...revitting.

Hamilton done something different to bridge the gult between that 0.2 seconds Ferrari have over McLaren...and with no tc. His car didnt suit the softs, he stuck to his sliding driving style (and we have seen him look after his tyres this season....and it was BORING) and he really gave it some wellie....not many people could start of 4th in a slightly inferrior car and a tyre issue and finish 2nd on a 3 stopper. Okay I would have been pretty peed if Hamilton ended up 6th or 7th but he got an exciting 2nd, and it wasnt about the 2nd place...to me it simply was about the good old fashion tradition long missed show F1 drivers used to put on and perform!

I dont ever want to see Hamilton driving to look after his tyres, his talent shouldnt be dismished for it...I would be happy to see it all over again, just so I can see a born racer be a PURE BORN RACER! But my only criticism for him would be he has to do better in qualifying next time!

Errr Your trusted commentators seem to think the gap to Ferrari has closed quite significantly, or did you conveniently forget that for the sake of your limp argument? Enlighten us..please.

By the way I didn't even bother reading the rest of your twaddle post.

Yikes!!! 

Dont worry I scan through most peoples posts, even yours, every body twaddles on, i would be a hypocrite if i said i didnt

When Hamilton was on his soft tyres with a light fuel load, did his car look like he bridged the gap? Hamilton was driving a completely inferrior car to the Ferrari's nothing in sundays race told me any different, if Kimi didnt make any mistakes, he would have most probably stuck it in 2nd...he didnt care because he most probably thought he would have got second place anyway. Heikki had an expected stop for his tyres, but he was still lapped in the end or would have been over 60 seconds behind Massa if he didnt have to make the last pits...bridge cut, i think not!

anametoremember:

no t.c.:

Here is the bottom line kids. Lewis performed well. Did he storm past Massa? No. It took him too long to get past even though he was on a snif of fuel. Not very impressive in my books. He qualified behind every one else who had vastly more fuel on board and a chance of winning ie. ferrari and hekki. He couldn't even close the gap to Kimi when he was behind him on better tyres and kimi was faster than him when the tyre roll was reversed.

Think what you like lewis fans but I am yet to see a stellar win from Lewis. He still hasn't won from off pole position. But hey everyone is entitled to support and 'big up' who they choose...no matter how wrong they are......geddit? I can't help but wonder would all you errr Brits be tooting your little horns about him if he wasn't infact  British? I think not. really begs the question what your support is based on, his driving or his nationality. Personally I think the latter of the two takes priority for you lot.

But hey thats just my opinion hey aname(more like no name) could u just explain  to me what race you were watching???????? because your  dear little hammy wammy  actualy started  3rd on the grid not 4th like you just claimed....daaaa oh i get it you must get your info from martin brundle&james allen.i think the hamilton band waggon you jumped on has distorted you vision, i suggest you jump off it before you go blind.lol

Yaddy Yaddy Yaddy YAH, that is why Hamilton was disappointed with his qualifying!

But on the whole, I think you are forgetting the gulf in performance of the McLaren to the Ferrari. If McLaren simply as per usual topped their car with 2 laps of more fuel than the Ferraris, the race would have been *** boring.

I have been suggesting for weeks McLaren have to do something, even if they dont win and that is go a little lighter on fuel. You are also forgetting that F1 has been by and inlarge BORING this season, highlights was Kimi and his stunts in Oz, DC and Hamilton ramming into the back of Alonso...revitting.

Hamilton done something different to bridge the gult between that 0.2 seconds Ferrari have over McLaren...and with no tc. His car didnt suit the softs, he stuck to his sliding driving style (and we have seen him look after his tyres this season....and it was BORING) and he really gave it some wellie....not many people could start of 4th in a slightly inferrior car and a tyre issue and finish 2nd on a 3 stopper. Okay I would have been pretty peed if Hamilton ended up 6th or 7th but he got an exciting 2nd, and it wasnt about the 2nd place...to me it simply was about the good old fashion tradition long missed show F1 drivers used to put on and perform!

I dont ever want to see Hamilton driving to look after his tyres, his talent shouldnt be dismished for it...I would be happy to see it all over again, just so I can see a born racer be a PURE BORN RACER! But my only criticism for him would be he has to do better in qualifying next time!

anametoremember:

no t.c.:

Here is the bottom line kids. Lewis performed well. Did he storm past Massa? No. It took him too long to get past even though he was on a snif of fuel. Not very impressive in my books. He qualified behind every one else who had vastly more fuel on board and a chance of winning ie. ferrari and hekki. He couldn't even close the gap to Kimi when he was behind him on better tyres and kimi was faster than him when the tyre roll was reversed.

Think what you like lewis fans but I am yet to see a stellar win from Lewis. He still hasn't won from off pole position. But hey everyone is entitled to support and 'big up' who they choose...no matter how wrong they are......geddit? I can't help but wonder would all you errr Brits be tooting your little horns about him if he wasn't infact  British? I think not. really begs the question what your support is based on, his driving or his nationality. Personally I think the latter of the two takes priority for you lot.

But hey thats just my opinion

Yaddy Yaddy Yaddy YAH, that is why Hamilton was disappointed with his qualifying!

But on the whole, I think you are forgetting the gulf in performance of the McLaren to the Ferrari. If McLaren simply as per usual topped their car with 2 laps of more fuel than the Ferraris, the race would have been *** boring.

I have been suggesting for weeks McLaren have to do something, even if they dont win and that is go a little lighter on fuel. You are also forgetting that F1 has been by and inlarge BORING this season, highlights was Kimi and his stunts in Oz, DC and Hamilton ramming into the back of Alonso...revitting.

Hamilton done something different to bridge the gult between that 0.2 seconds Ferrari have over McLaren...and with no tc. His car didnt suit the softs, he stuck to his sliding driving style (and we have seen him look after his tyres this season....and it was BORING) and he really gave it some wellie....not many people could start of 4th in a slightly inferrior car and a tyre issue and finish 2nd on a 3 stopper. Okay I would have been pretty peed if Hamilton ended up 6th or 7th but he got an exciting 2nd, and it wasnt about the 2nd place...to me it simply was about the good old fashion tradition long missed show F1 drivers used to put on and perform!

I dont ever want to see Hamilton driving to look after his tyres, his talent shouldnt be dismished for it...I would be happy to see it all over again, just so I can see a born racer be a PURE BORN RACER! But my only criticism for him would be he has to do better in qualifying next time!

And let's not forget turn 8 is one of the most difficult turns in F1... Hamilton had to thread it to perfection for the whole race at a higher rate of knots then most without TC.

Bridgestone need to produce a racing tire, and Hamilton will really begin to fly... otherwise, we are going to be back to handicap tires and cruising...

hey did you all see hamiltons supurb performance in sundays race????? no what happened????? well he stormed his way to second postion in the race!!!!!! really were did he start????? 3RD!!!!!!! lol. lets face it the cocky swine gained 1 postion in all that race,and that was only thanks to bad start from kovy&kimi. bet you still think he`s great eh????? 

shumacher world n01:

Michael shumacher, kimi is not, but kimi didn`t want that stigma , he`s not like shumi at all, no one will ever be like shumi,not fernando ,not hamilton NO ONE the great michael schumacher is one of a kind,a freak of a racer that the likes of you or me will NEVER see again in our lifetime,face it he will never be emulated EVER.and a true shumi fan i am,i remeber the shumi era when the f1 weekend got close,i got uncontrolable butterflies in my stomatch,saturday qualifing was more intence,then he grabs pole my heart almost flies outta my chest,then sunday the race, couldn`t sleep much the nite before,trying to work out  ferraris tactics,eventuly i sleep, wake early in the morning with hour`s untill the race wondering what to do untill then,then it finally happens,the lights go out,their off my heart this time feels like it`s gonna explode like a bomb,feel soooo excited im almost sick,then as he did many times over, WINS ,victory was for us ferrari and michael fans again!!! this feeling has been lost in time now and will probaly never be felt again, like the feeling i got when schumacher drove a prancing horse to all shumi fans out there,we will always know the truth,and the haters can just keep on hating 

Kimi would love to be like Michael Schumacher but he has neither the depth, intelligence or racecraft... at best, he is Massa without a personality...

As for your thoughts on Michael, I can assure you I witnessed and experienced the exact same feeling, except I couldn't care less that he was in a Ferrari...

Ferrari is a dull and boring brand now without Michael Schumacher, and I've read and heard numerious people say they find Ferrrari a bit of a bore now... this will likely be the Kimi factor kicking in...

Yes, no two greats are the same, but Hamilton is demonstrating the raw racecraft I would expect to see in a young great... his fundamantal racecraft is on another level to the current crop of drivers... lets see how high he goes.

If McLaren weren't handicapped by a mental Alonso, FIA/Ferrari financial politics, Max vs Ron personal vendettas, internal McLaren strategy sabotage then Hamilton would have won the WDC by a country mile... he didn't lead the WDC for no reason... Kimi won nothing in 2007 except award for being in the right place when McLaren had to pull the plug on their WCC and WDC challenge on the instruction of the FIA...

If we want good racing and those old feelings to return, it will be in all our interests to see the departure of Max as an oppportunity for the FIA to mend its level of corruption and produce a tight set of regulation without ambiguity and regulate the sport in a team neutral fashion...

After MS, if Hamilton hadn't turned up, I can 100% say I would have been happy to stop watching F1 despite having followed it since 1994... the racing is all but dead thanks to the FIA and Max's dream of turning it into a game of chess... what an idiot... not surprised people are putting spotters out in Monaco, so they can avoid him...

RaggedEdge:

shumacher world n01:

Michael shumacher, kimi is not, but kimi didn`t want that stigma , he`s not like shumi at all, no one will ever be like shumi,not fernando ,not hamilton NO ONE the great michael schumacher is one of a kind,a freak of a racer that the likes of you or me will NEVER see again in our lifetime,face it he will never be emulated EVER.and a true shumi fan i am,i remeber the shumi era when the f1 weekend got close,i got uncontrolable butterflies in my stomatch,saturday qualifing was more intence,then he grabs pole my heart almost flies outta my chest,then sunday the race, couldn`t sleep much the nite before,trying to work out  ferraris tactics,eventuly i sleep, wake early in the morning with hour`s untill the race wondering what to do untill then,then it finally happens,the lights go out,their off my heart this time feels like it`s gonna explode like a bomb,feel soooo excited im almost sick,then as he did many times over, WINS ,victory was for us ferrari and michael fans again!!! this feeling has been lost in time now and will probaly never be felt again, like the feeling i got when schumacher drove a prancing horse to all shumi fans out there,we will always know the truth,and the haters can just keep on hating 

Kimi would love to be like Michael Schumacher but he has neither the depth, intelligence or racecraft... at best, he is Massa without a personality...

As for your thoughts on Michael, I can assure you I witnessed and experienced the exact same feeling, except I couldn't care less that he was in a Ferrari...

Ferrari is a dull and boring brand now without Michael Schumacher, and I've read and heard numerious people say they find Ferrrari a bit of a bore now... this will likely be the Kimi factor kicking in...

Yes, no two greats are the same, but Hamilton is demonstrating the raw racecraft I would expect to see in a young great... his fundamantal racecraft is on another level to the current crop of drivers... lets see how high he goes.

If McLaren weren't handicapped by a mental Alonso, FIA/Ferrari financial politics, Max vs Ron personal vendettas, internal McLaren strategy sabotage then Hamilton would have won the WDC by a country mile... he didn't lead the WDC for no reason... Kimi won nothing in 2007 except award for being in the right place when McLaren had to pull the plug on their WCC and WDC challenge on the instruction of the FIA...

If we want good racing and those old feelings to return, it will be in all our interests to see the departure of Max as an oppportunity for the FIA to mend its level of corruption and produce a tight set of regulation without ambiguity and regulate the sport in a team neutral fashion...

After MS, if Hamilton hadn't turned up, I can 100% say I would have been happy to stop watching F1 despite having followed it since 1994... the racing is all but dead thanks to the FIA and Max's dream of turning it into a game of chess... what an idiot... not surprised people are putting spotters out in Monaco, so they can avoid him...

What ever you say doesnt alter the fact that Hamilton has never won from anywhere but pole and Kimi has on several occasions and there is no excuse for him.  What  did he do in the last race went from third to second only Kimi went from fourth to third although he had a slightly damaged wing thanks to being squeezed at the start which didnt get Heikki anywhere but spoilt the race for himself and Kimi. I do believe though  that although Kimi had more fuel and a damaged wing he did manage to do fastest lap so not a bad effort - well done Kimi

KIMBO1:

What ever you say doesnt alter the fact that Hamilton has never won from anywhere but pole and Kimi has on several occasions and there is no excuse for him.  What  did he do in the last race went from third to second only Kimi went from fourth to third although he had a slightly damaged wing thanks to being squeezed at the start which didnt get Heikki anywhere but spoilt the race for himself and Kimi. I do believe though  that although Kimi had more fuel and a damaged wing he did manage to do fastest lap so not a bad effort - well done Kimi

Seriously you said that as if it will never happen for Hamilton, and if I remember correctly Hamilton was more than willing to overtake win from a postion he didnt start from pole in...one of the most hardest tracks to drive on, MONACO 2007!

Hamilton will soon win from a none pole postion from sheer driving skill (not because of a superior car or Ferrari off form...sheer SKILL) and kept you lot finding faults else where , if Hamilton was prepared to drive like that with no TC, and a car which was 0.2 seconds of Ferrari's pace....I say the Hamilton I know is back, all that careful driving he was trying to adopt, ruined his form, he is backkkkkkkk!!