here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

Members is plural. your link states just one member. This also, is an old story.

And you know the saying, two wrongs dont make a right. So stop digging yourself and idiocy hole to bury yourself in.

why does it matter if it is old? michael schumacher the 7 time world champion is old news but people still talk about it. it not old news anyway, quite recent and it is a lot worse than what hamilton and mclaren did. if what is written about them is true then they have broken the law and could be prosecuted. who knows what else they have been up to? mosley donnoly branson, all placing a bet when they know exactly what the outcome would be. criminal that.

aveli666:

why does it matter if it is old? michael schumacher the 7 time world champion is old news but people still talk about it. it not old news anyway, quite recent and it is a lot worse than what hamilton and mclaren did. if what is written about them is true then they have broken the law and could be prosecuted. who knows what else they have been up to? mosley donnoly branson, all placing a bet when they know exactly what the outcome would be. criminal that.

Yes it is criminal it come's under the same categoty as insider trading . Iv'e been reading alot about the FIA max And Bernie and the more I read the more I think their need's to be an EU enquiery ASAP.

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

That is terrible....well at least these guys managed to do something honest and right when they punished Macca and Hamilton for cheating. It gives us hope that they can stay on the straight and narrow.

wallace i:

aveli666:

why does it matter if it is old? michael schumacher the 7 time world champion is old news but people still talk about it. it not old news anyway, quite recent and it is a lot worse than what hamilton and mclaren did. if what is written about them is true then they have broken the law and could be prosecuted. who knows what else they have been up to? mosley donnoly branson, all placing a bet when they know exactly what the outcome would be. criminal that.

Yes it is criminal it come's under the same categoty as insider trading . Iv'e been reading alot about the FIA max And Bernie and the more I read the more I think their need's to be an EU enquiery ASAP.

 

Its amazing what you can find out with a little digging isn't it.

stigga:

wallace i:

aveli666:

why does it matter if it is old? michael schumacher the 7 time world champion is old news but people still talk about it. it not old news anyway, quite recent and it is a lot worse than what hamilton and mclaren did. if what is written about them is true then they have broken the law and could be prosecuted. who knows what else they have been up to? mosley donnoly branson, all placing a bet when they know exactly what the outcome would be. criminal that.

Yes it is criminal it come's under the same categoty as insider trading . Iv'e been reading alot about the FIA max And Bernie and the more I read the more I think their need's to be an EU enquiery ASAP.

 

Its amazing what you can find out with a little digging isn't it.

i bet they get away with it. 

mikhailv:

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

Members is plural. your link states just one member. This also, is an old story.

And you know the saying, two wrongs dont make a right. So stop digging yourself and idiocy hole to bury yourself in.

can you count? and what do you mean by two wrongs don't make a right? do you suggest they get away with it or be put through what the law says? 

aveli666:

mikhailv:

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

Members is plural. your link states just one member. This also, is an old story.

And you know the saying, two wrongs dont make a right. So stop digging yourself and idiocy hole to bury yourself in.

can you count? and what do you mean by two wrongs don't make a right? do you suggest they get away with it or be put through what the law says? 

I think he is saying that Hamiltons wrong (cheating and lying) is not any less punishable or severe just because those who delt said punishment have been found wanting themselves.

And I totally agree. Hamilton and Macca need to change their culture of cheating and lying, they are destroying the sport of F1.

no t.c.:

aveli666:

mikhailv:

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

Members is plural. your link states just one member. This also, is an old story.

And you know the saying, two wrongs dont make a right. So stop digging yourself and idiocy hole to bury yourself in.

can you count? and what do you mean by two wrongs don't make a right? do you suggest they get away with it or be put through what the law says? 

I think he is saying that Hamiltons wrong (cheating and lying) is not any less punishable or severe just because those who delt said punishment have been found wanting themselves.

And I totally agree. Hamilton and Macca need to change their culture of cheating and lying, they are destroying the sport of F1.

honesty is the name of the game no tc, so start by telling the truth. why are you se bent on spreading lies about hamilton and mclaren? there are so many on this site like you and i feel sorry for all of them. funny thing is not many people spread lies about other drivers or teams.

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

  aveli - not sure how you can cast any doubt on the fact that he was guilty of lying - he admitted on TV  'live'  and sort of apologised !!!

jax70:

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

  aveli - not sure how you can cast any doubt on the fact that he was guilty of lying - he admitted on TV  'live'  and sort of apologised !!!

jax70, hamilton said one of his team managers asked him to lie and he did, as a result the team manager was dismissed from mclaren. hamilton told the truth to the media as soon as he was out of the car and was convinced to lie to the stewards and he did. there is no doubt about that. 

if i think you are lying about something and i have substantial evidence that you are lying, i will tell you that you are lying and show you the evidence. that's what the fia should have done with hamilton.

aveli666:

jax70:

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

  aveli - not sure how you can cast any doubt on the fact that he was guilty of lying - he admitted on TV  'live'  and sort of apologised !!!

jax70, hamilton said one of his team managers asked him to lie and he did, as a result the team manager was dismissed from mclaren. hamilton told the truth to the media as soon as he was out of the car and was convinced to lie to the stewards and he did. there is no doubt about that. 

if i think you are lying about something and i have substantial evidence that you are lying, i will tell you that you are lying and show you the evidence. that's what the fia should have done with hamilton.

That's what the stewards did, and despite that Hamilton did not own up to it during the meeting with the stewards. Only afterwards he had the guts to apologise in public. You have to accept it, Hamilton lied, and he hold up the lie even when confronted with substantial evidence. I don't think many people would have been too upset about the lie - or talking the incident up - in the first hearing. But sticking to it in the second hearing despite the substantial evidence is quite outrageous.

Regarding Donnelly's dealings, that is on a different piece of paper, and I am sure we will hear more about this and whether there is a conflict of interest. However, at the moment I cannot see what we have seen in Hamilton's case, which is substantial evidence.

justrace:

aveli666:

jax70:

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

  aveli - not sure how you can cast any doubt on the fact that he was guilty of lying - he admitted on TV  'live'  and sort of apologised !!!

jax70, hamilton said one of his team managers asked him to lie and he did, as a result the team manager was dismissed from mclaren. hamilton told the truth to the media as soon as he was out of the car and was convinced to lie to the stewards and he did. there is no doubt about that. 

if i think you are lying about something and i have substantial evidence that you are lying, i will tell you that you are lying and show you the evidence. that's what the fia should have done with hamilton.

That's what the stewards did, and despite that Hamilton did not own up to it during the meeting with the stewards. Only afterwards he had the guts to apologise in public. You have to accept it, Hamilton lied, and he hold up the lie even when confronted with substantial evidence. I don't think many people would have been too upset about the lie - or talking the incident up - in the first hearing. But sticking to it in the second hearing despite the substantial evidence is quite outrageous.

Regarding Donnelly's dealings, that is on a different piece of paper, and I am sure we will hear more about this and whether there is a conflict of interest. However, at the moment I cannot see what we have seen in Hamilton's case, which is substantial evidence.

very interesting justrace, do you honestly believe that if you lied to me and i presented you if evidence that you were lying you would repeat your lie? hamilton was asked on two occasions and he repeated the lie but no evidence was presented to him at any stage.

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if the stewards took their time to look at the evidence in the first place they would not need to interview any of the drivers and decide on the positions each driver should finish.  

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no doubt hamilton knew he was lying because he told the truth to the journalist the moment he got out of his car and was made to change his story and he did because he believed he would get away with it. it was the truth which he reported to the journalists which got him in trouble with the stewards.

any way it doesn't stop him from doing this.

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aveli666:

justrace:

aveli666:

jax70:

aveli666:

here is a little story about the 'honest' members of the fia who found hamilton guilty of lying following the incidents in albert park this year.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38324 

  aveli - not sure how you can cast any doubt on the fact that he was guilty of lying - he admitted on TV  'live'  and sort of apologised !!!

jax70, hamilton said one of his team managers asked him to lie and he did, as a result the team manager was dismissed from mclaren. hamilton told the truth to the media as soon as he was out of the car and was convinced to lie to the stewards and he did. there is no doubt about that. 

if i think you are lying about something and i have substantial evidence that you are lying, i will tell you that you are lying and show you the evidence. that's what the fia should have done with hamilton.

That's what the stewards did, and despite that Hamilton did not own up to it during the meeting with the stewards. Only afterwards he had the guts to apologise in public. You have to accept it, Hamilton lied, and he hold up the lie even when confronted with substantial evidence. I don't think many people would have been too upset about the lie - or talking the incident up - in the first hearing. But sticking to it in the second hearing despite the substantial evidence is quite outrageous.

Regarding Donnelly's dealings, that is on a different piece of paper, and I am sure we will hear more about this and whether there is a conflict of interest. However, at the moment I cannot see what we have seen in Hamilton's case, which is substantial evidence.

very interesting justrace, do you honestly believe that if you lied to me and i presented you if evidence that you were lying you would repeat your lie? hamilton was asked on two occasions and he repeated the lie but no evidence was presented to him at any stage.

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if the stewards took their time to look at the evidence in the first place they would not need to interview any of the drivers and decide on the positions each driver should finish.  

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no doubt hamilton knew he was lying because he told the truth to the journalist the moment he got out of his car and was made to change his story and he did because he believed he would get away with it. it was the truth which he reported to the journalists which got him in trouble with the stewards.

any way it doesn't stop him from doing this.

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Hamilton was sent to lie and would not of had to lie if Whitmrsh was a honest team prinicple or got the call right on the tracks from the get go, Hamilton's mistake was listening and trusting Whitmarsh from the beginning. I am in more shock of the mess of Oz and the way Whitmarsh stitched over Hamilton, Davey and Dennis when I look back with hindsight.

What was wrong with the imbeciles in McLaren given Hamilton the right info, what was wrong with the imbeciles at McLaren owning up to their mistake and being truthful with it, instead of sending Lewis out to those manipulation lions who had all the footage and radio convos from the get go.