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How would YOU bring Stephen back?

Last post 11-01-2009, 7:57 PM by cooldude13. 9 replies.
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  •  01-16-2009, 6:19 PM 797987

    How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    How would you bring Stephen back if you could, to make it seem believable also?

    I don't think Helen could pull him from a past anomaly because that would change too many things in the future. All the times Stephen had saved the group, no one would be around anymore.

    I suppose she could clone him like she did The Cleaner.  Would he remember who he is? Confused

    Or, if she could find a way to have an anomaly open up right before he gets attacked in the room where he dies, maybe Helen's crew could save him.  I think Nick turned away before Stephen was attacked. Of course doing it this way, Helen wouldn't have her way still because I doubt Stephen would want to team up with her again.  Angry

    But, she's tired of being alone and needs someone to help her get the creatures, so she would probably mess with Stephen's memory if she did save him.  Tongue Tied 

  •  01-27-2009, 11:01 AM 800285 in reply to 797987

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    The only way I could see of bringing back Stephen in any credible way, would be through another timeline in which he is alive through a differently evolved world but is still the same person.  The next best thing is that he is a completely different person, but not terribly different (Claudia/Jenny). But it would be pushing it to make him part of the ARC, like they did with Claudia, which I thought was a bit far-fetched.  

    The problem is that anomalies behave erratically - they appear, disappear - or never completely disappear. We know they move and open up into different prehistoric eras and now the future.  Now we know that there are anomalies within anomalies! (Remember the 'spaghetti junction of anomalies' in the dodo episode?). Then there are the differing timelines!  

    I am reminded of the conversation between Nick and Stephen in the raptors episode, where Stephen says to Nick that he could change a million things and still not get Claudia back.

    And say Helen did resort to cloning: it would not be the same Stephen in terms of personality and character, even though physically identical.  It does seem impossible to have produced those clones of the 'cleaner' for them to do the same job as the original man: did she clone his personality and identity too?   It seems illogical:  she would have to know what the original man's upbringing was like and to re-enact it, and we know that that is impossible. I would be interested to know how she managed it.  Maybe she found him alive in a particular timeline.  But why go to so much trouble for this selfish, obscure and annoying man who she barely knows?  Are all things possible in sci-fi, or do events have to be grounded in some kind of reality that makes sense?  

    As an aside, frankly that man would be the last person I would want to clone.  Just goes to show, Helen is not a good judge of character:

  •  05-18-2009, 7:44 PM 838995 in reply to 800285

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    The best and most credible way to realistically bring Stephen AND Cutter back would be a story line that shows the vies how both characters (the dead ones) were actully clones and the REAL Stephen and Cutter were lost in another time anomoly...this way their character and their personalities, memories etc would all be intact. 

    The history will have a recap showing how Stephen and Cutter were somehow manipulated by Helen in Series 2 (unknown to the viewer) and kidnapped & replaced by their clone counterparts.  There could be an episode where we have a flash back in Helen's mind thinking of Stephen and Cutter and how they were forced into an anomalie and replaced by their clones so that Helen could get them out of the picture without actually hurting them (she really does care about both of them...so we can see the "tender side" of that witch... 

    Then we actually see Stephen & Cutter, alone in some prehistoric or future era....hiking along jumping into yet another anomalie trying to find home and....viola!  they finally make it home only to find that everyone thought they were dead but now alive...every one is happy....the boys have a new contract with the show....and the show will be now be better and we can all go on enjoying the original reason why we started watching this great series with 2 really awesome characters that should have never been killed off.......People, people. people.....America is just getting this show...you can't let Cutter or Stephen get axed off the show!!!

  •  05-18-2009, 9:33 PM 839050 in reply to 838995

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    Another way would be that the existing team goes through an anomaly and when they come back the present has changed or it is anoother timeline. So a similar storyline like in series 2 ep.1. The team returns in a world where both Stephan and Nick still exist.

    Or Stephan and Nick suddenly come through an anomaly because something in the past changed again....anyway it would be possible, although I can't see them doing it. But I'd love to see all dead characters back in a final showdown of Primeval.

  •  05-18-2009, 9:56 PM 839062 in reply to 839050

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    Hmmm... Bringing him back.

    If they ever did, it would have to be like.. a complete accident

    Like someone changes the future and past by killing something, or whatever :)

    And then like, Stephen could be tracking the unusal footprints from whatever creature

    and then hes all cool and gun man again wher ehe rolls in and is all "WTF man!" 

    But then again, thats just how i see it.. :P

  •  05-19-2009, 10:53 AM 839144 in reply to 839062

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    I think it should be by changing the timeline in a very subtle way, because that's already been established as the way things work in Primeval (when Claudia disappeared).
  •  05-24-2009, 12:21 AM 840924 in reply to 838995

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    Stephen's funeral gave us the biggest hint - cloning.

     Several sites had Stephen's return at the end of this series, but that was before James's little girl died, so the return has been put off (understandably)

  •  10-24-2009, 7:41 PM 883596 in reply to 838995

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    actually that could work because if Helen thought she was going to destroy humanity then the only way they would be safe was it they were in an anomaly, MAYBE THEY COULD MEET DANNY!!!!!!!!! but rather that give her a tender side we could make it so that she only kept they alive because she wanted something from them, company protection etc ... cause thats a bit more likely

  •  10-25-2009, 9:45 AM 883680 in reply to 883596

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    It would be great if they could get James Murray back full-time. Stephen has all the action-man qualities, but more believably than Danny, plus he's a scientist. Abby and Connor return to the present to find themselves in a world where it was Nick who died at the end of s2, and Stephen is now the team leader. Lots of angst for everyone, plus S3 never happened. Works for me....
  •  11-01-2009, 7:57 PM 885506 in reply to 883680

    Re: How would YOU bring Stephen back?

    i don't know how i would bring them back but i think it would be really cool if cutter and danny met but they didn't know who each other were

     

     

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