Did Simon lose his hearing on Sunday. Rachel was by far the best singer in the sing off and yet again we have a farcicle situation and one where genuine fans are being deprived of a true and proper contest of talent. There is obviously a large section of the voting public who are intent on ruining the show by either purposely voting for the worst singers or voting for who they like best. IT IS A SINGING COMPETITION. This problem could be solved very easily by allowing voters to vote for who they liked the least. In this event, the people who are voting for who they would like in would have their votes split between the better performers and the genuine voters would unanimously vote for the least talented. We have the same situation on strictly come dancing where the least talented are continuously being saved. It is a joke and ruins what is a great show. In the end people will say enough is enough and stop watching.

the twins john and edward cannot sing, have limitations on their dancing and are not exciting to watch or listen to.  the reason they are getting votes is because a whole country is voting for them ireland and of course all the irish who live here.

susanna foxtrot:

the reason they are getting votes is because a whole country is voting for them ireland .

I really can't believe that this is still going on.  The whole of Ireland IS NOT ABLE TO VOTE .  Only people in Northern Ireland can and at the end of the day that is as much part of the U.K as Scotland , England and Wales are. It is the BRITISH VOTERS that are keeping John and Edward in the competition.....not the whole of Ireland or indeed Louis Walsh.  We do get to watch the XFactor over here and indeed one of the Irish T.V channels that it has been shown on as wanted the Irish Republic to be included in the voting but it wasn't allowed.  Maybe it's just aswell as if we were allowed vote then we could be blamed for keeping John and Edward in.  If people in the U.K don't want Irish people or an Irish judge in the competition then the programme makers need to change the rules and only let U.K citizens enter. Maybe that is the solution.

The Irish are a large population in itself wherever they may be, england, ireland, scotland, wales and it is natural they would want an irish contestant to win.  Just like alot of the scottish voted for the last lady who came second.  Irish, Scottish and Welsh are still people in their own rights/lands but no so for England anymore because it is so multicultural  therefore they vote for whoever is really the best.  In other words the patriotism is stronger for those lands.

susanna foxtrot:

it is natural they would want an irish contestant to win. 

do you really think people would vote for a countryman just because they were a countryman even though they don't have a single iota of talent?

And that theory is kind of dead in the water as the Scottish never supported Ricky did they?

lucky leprechaun:

susanna foxtrot:

the reason they are getting votes is because a whole country is voting for them ireland .

I really can't believe that this is still going on.  The whole of Ireland IS NOT ABLE TO VOTE .  Only people in Northern Ireland can and at the end of the day that is as much part of the U.K as Scotland , England and Wales are. It is the BRITISH VOTERS that are keeping John and Edward in the competition.....not the whole of Ireland or indeed Louis Walsh.  We do get to watch the XFactor over here and indeed one of the Irish T.V channels that it has been shown on as wanted the Irish Republic to be included in the voting but it wasn't allowed.  Maybe it's just aswell as if we were allowed vote then we could be blamed for keeping John and Edward in.  If people in the U.K don't want Irish people or an Irish judge in the competition then the programme makers need to change the rules and only let U.K citizens enter. Maybe that is the solution.

    You know lucky.l  you can keep shouting till the elfs come home they aint gona listen,,i dont think they grasp what you are trying to say ,it is the british public whether they are scottish,english,welsh ,from N.Ireland or ,irish living in the mentioned it is the BRITISH PUBLIC and just because i am scottish does not nor did it make me want to pick up the phone and vote for ricky,you dont just vote for a contryman do you ?? 

British - A person of Great Britain, yes that includes England, Scotland, Wales and northern Ireland

English - A person born in England or descended of English parents.

gooyans:

British - A person of Great Britain, yes that includes England, Scotland, Wales and northern Ireland

English - A person born in England or descended of English parents.

   or descended of English parents ???? does that make you english if born in scotland

brocherboy:

lucky leprechaun:

susanna foxtrot:

the reason they are getting votes is because a whole country is voting for them ireland .

I really can't believe that this is still going on.  The whole of Ireland IS NOT ABLE TO VOTE .  Only people in Northern Ireland can and at the end of the day that is as much part of the U.K as Scotland , England and Wales are. It is the BRITISH VOTERS that are keeping John and Edward in the competition.....not the whole of Ireland or indeed Louis Walsh.  We do get to watch the XFactor over here and indeed one of the Irish T.V channels that it has been shown on as wanted the Irish Republic to be included in the voting but it wasn't allowed.  Maybe it's just aswell as if we were allowed vote then we could be blamed for keeping John and Edward in.  If people in the U.K don't want Irish people or an Irish judge in the competition then the programme makers need to change the rules and only let U.K citizens enter. Maybe that is the solution.

    You know lucky.l  you can keep shouting till the elfs come home they aint gona listen,,i dont think they grasp what you are trying to say ,it is the british public whether they are scottish,english,welsh ,from N.Ireland or ,irish living in the mentioned it is the BRITISH PUBLIC and just because i am scottish does not nor did it make me want to pick up the phone and vote for ricky,you dont just vote for a contryman do you ?? 

I think I gave up last week brocherboy....you are right that it just doesn't seem to be getting through to some people that it is the BRITISH public that are keeping the twins in the competition.  I'm sure that there are some welsh people who vote for Lloyd or Lucie but at the end of the day I think that most people vote for their favourite act as they are entitled to. Otherwise whats the point of having a public vote.   I am so glad that we can't vote here in the Republic of Ireland this year as we cannot be held responsible for 'Jedward" still being in the competition . Neither can Louis Walsh as up to now the twins have not been 'saved' by Louis.

Not only is the voting all wrong but the format and everything else.

What started as a superb talent show format has been turned into a ridiculous parody of itself.  It appears to be the under 12s voting for potential plastic pop, as opposed to the British public voting for what they believe to be genuine talent.  It is all geared towards the "fast buck" and NOT towards forwarding talent and it's growth.  As a singer I know that the majority of us would not even contemplate entering as our musical credibility means more to us than any short-term "artificial" career boost.  The web site has made commenting difficult to navigate in an attempt to avoid these difficult  subjects and as for the weekly categories . . . . .  Well, there were only 3 songs from the entire show, this week that could be directly attributed as being "movie" songs . . . . . .

Tosh ! ! !   Tosh ! ! !  TOSH ! ! !

It has become all about exploitong childr4en for their pocket-money .

 

Alan Dominey

I agree entirely. The voting is being decided by the public, who vote for a 'personality' and not someone who has a good voice. Also Louis Walsh is getting very rude - is he ill?

Jane's mum 

I personally think that GOD FORBID that John and Edward get into the top three, let alone win, we should all support Simon in changing the format FOR GOOD for next year, especially if the producers insist on the new format.  If that isn't a good enough reason, I don't know what is.  Shows like these make great entertainment, especially on a cold winter Saturday nights, let's try and save them before it is too late.  I wonder if Louie, John and Edward realise how much damage they are doing, I reckon PROBABLY NOT. 

 

 

 

I've lost all respect for Simon as a credible judge. He has always insisted that they are looking for a talented vocalist and yet when given the opportunity to vote to save the most talented singer he chose to save John and Edward. This undermines all his principles and was a very unfair decision. I don't feel like watching the show again after tonight. Lucie would have benefited the most from the opportunity to stay in the competition and grow as an artist. She has the potential to become a pop star Britain can be proud of. Yes she does not have Leona's voice, but she's one in a billion, and there is a place in the market for Lucie. It was unkind that Simon was so negative about her tonight. Lucie is probably stronger vocally than Cheryl and he's not blocking her career opportunities by saying she has a ceiling to her voice.

if instead of going to simon last as they alwaysdo (curious) so hes always got the deciding vote, if sheryl had been last to vote then it would have been a different story, im really gutted for lucy the obvious better talent, that he has destroyed her dream, for two "fly by nights "that he is obviously going to make "more money from " this shows this show is fixed why does it come down to money!! they were always going to win by default.shame on you simon and shame on you ITV!!   DIXIE WREN.

they will not win as I believe that the judges have the votes in the final.

Simon should hang his head in shame what he has done. I have not been able to sleep from it. They are JUDGES and should judge on performance. He has said many times the boys can not sing. He got the girl out as she is one of the best and competiton to his boys. ALL SHOULD BE FAIR SIMON. SHAME ON YOU!

We will not be watching it again, it is a farce and I was one of the biggest fans. (not a young one either)