Looks like the FIA have found yet another way to help Ferrari compete without merit...

It is being suggested by F1 paddock folk, that the FIA have allowed Ferrari to improve the engine, allowing a double digit increase in power... and all this while the FIA have banned any engine development...

"Most engine manufacturers made permitted tweaks to their V8 designs over the winter, but it is rumoured that some rival teams are unhappy that Ferrari’s changes - apparently green-lighted by the FIA - seem to have resulted in a significant performance gain."

F1 is getting beyond stupid...

RaggedEdge:

Looks like the FIA have found yet another way to help Ferrari compete without merit...

It is being suggested by F1 paddock folk, that the FIA have allowed Ferrari to improve the engine, allowing a double digit increase in power... and all this while the FIA have banned any engine development...

"Most engine manufacturers made permitted tweaks to their V8 designs over the winter, but it is rumoured that some rival teams are unhappy that Ferrari’s changes - apparently green-lighted by the FIA - seem to have resulted in a significant performance gain."

F1 is getting beyond stupid...

Well teams were allowed to make changes to their engines until the end of March 2008 when teams did have to supply FIA the reference engine.

Intresting that you left this quote out of your post..it was on that same news:" But I assume the normal procedures have taken place.  I have no suspicions," he added.

Besides they are talking about loop hole in rules! Which would mean that Ferrari would have (AT WORST) taken advantage of some stupidity in rules. One possibility is that Ferrari developed engine that is super powerful, but obviously not so reliable yet. According to rules they could make fixes for reliability and by so doing they could have taken more and more out of that same engine.

So if there's rumour against Ferrari..Ragged will, as being neutral,  will declare it as the whole truth just like that. 

RaggedEdge:

Looks like the FIA have found yet another way to help Ferrari compete without merit...

It is being suggested by F1 paddock folk, that the FIA have allowed Ferrari to improve the engine, allowing a double digit increase in power... and all this while the FIA have banned any engine development...

"Most engine manufacturers made permitted tweaks to their V8 designs over the winter, but it is rumoured that some rival teams are unhappy that Ferrari’s changes - apparently green-lighted by the FIA - seem to have resulted in a significant performance gain."

F1 is getting beyond stupid...

Link please!

According to Bild (I know) someone inside Ferrari team said that Ferrari's new oil system simply workst that much better that they can take more out of their engine.

nicekim:

Intresting that you left this quote out of your post..it was on that same news:" But I assume the normal procedures have taken place.  I have no suspicions," he added.

 

nicekim:

RaggedEdge:

Looks like the FIA have found yet another way to help Ferrari compete without merit...

It is being suggested by F1 paddock folk, that the FIA have allowed Ferrari to improve the engine, allowing a double digit increase in power... and all this while the FIA have banned any engine development...

"Most engine manufacturers made permitted tweaks to their V8 designs over the winter, but it is rumoured that some rival teams are unhappy that Ferrari’s changes - apparently green-lighted by the FIA - seem to have resulted in a significant performance gain."

F1 is getting beyond stupid...

Well teams were allowed to make changes to their engines until the end of March 2008 when teams did have to supply FIA the reference engine.

Intresting that you left this quote out of your post..it was on that same news:" But I assume the normal procedures have taken place.  I have no suspicions," he added.

Besides they are talking about loop hole in rules! Which would mean that Ferrari would have (AT WORST) taken advantage of some stupidity in rules. One possibility is that Ferrari developed engine that is super powerful, but obviously not so reliable yet. According to rules they could make fixes for reliability and by so doing they could have taken more and more out of that same engine.

So if there's rumour against Ferrari..Ragged will, as being neutral,  will declare it as the whole truth just like that. 

 

I said it has been "suggested"...

The FIA always seem to create perfect loop holes for Ferrari's benefit... what was it last year? Oh yes, it was good old flexi floors...

It's beyond reasonable doubt that the FIA rules are not rules but mere loosly ended sentences open for interpretation... if the FIA were serious about rules, they would have them nailed down, and not simply make a Ferrari biased decision each time they are abused....

It also turn out, suddenly, that engines can now be changed for reliability reasons - what the hell does that mean? Where did that rule come from - it couldn't surely be available for Ferrari's engine unreliability problems? How do you know development will be for performance on reliability gain?

It's amazing the amount of smoke that billows from the FIA's under the watch of the highly respected Max Mosley, who has been asked to resign by countless motoring organizations across the world...

RaggedEdge:

Looks like the FIA have found yet another way to help Ferrari compete without merit...

It is being suggested by F1 paddock folk, that the FIA have allowed Ferrari to improve the engine, allowing a double digit increase in power... and all this while the FIA have banned any engine development...

"Most engine manufacturers made permitted tweaks to their V8 designs over the winter, but it is rumoured that some rival teams are unhappy that Ferrari’s changes - apparently green-lighted by the FIA - seem to have resulted in a significant performance gain."

F1 is getting beyond stupid...

But you never complained about alledged FIA-Ferrari favourtism when MS was driving at Ferrari did you?

Talk about double standards. 

RaggedEdge:

nicekim:

RaggedEdge:

Looks like the FIA have found yet another way to help Ferrari compete without merit...

It is being suggested by F1 paddock folk, that the FIA have allowed Ferrari to improve the engine, allowing a double digit increase in power... and all this while the FIA have banned any engine development...

"Most engine manufacturers made permitted tweaks to their V8 designs over the winter, but it is rumoured that some rival teams are unhappy that Ferrari’s changes - apparently green-lighted by the FIA - seem to have resulted in a significant performance gain."

F1 is getting beyond stupid...

Well teams were allowed to make changes to their engines until the end of March 2008 when teams did have to supply FIA the reference engine.

Intresting that you left this quote out of your post..it was on that same news:" But I assume the normal procedures have taken place.  I have no suspicions," he added.

Besides they are talking about loop hole in rules! Which would mean that Ferrari would have (AT WORST) taken advantage of some stupidity in rules. One possibility is that Ferrari developed engine that is super powerful, but obviously not so reliable yet. According to rules they could make fixes for reliability and by so doing they could have taken more and more out of that same engine.

So if there's rumour against Ferrari..Ragged will, as being neutral,  will declare it as the whole truth just like that. 

 

I said it has been "suggested"...

The FIA always seem to create perfect loop holes for Ferrari's benefit... what was it last year? Oh yes, it was good old flexi floors...

It's beyond reasonable doubt that the FIA rules are not rules but mere loosly ended sentences open for interpretation... if the FIA were serious about rules, they would have them nailed down, and not simply make a Ferrari biased decision each time they are abused....

It also turn out, suddenly, that engines can now be changed for reliability reasons - what the hell does that mean? Where did that rule come from - it couldn't surely be available for Ferrari's engine unreliability problems? How do you know development will be for performance on reliability gain?

It's amazing the amount of smoke that billows from the FIA's under the watch of the highly respected Max Mosley, who has been asked to resign by countless motoring organizations across the world...

..but title and last paragraph 'suggested' the other way. In addition you left out that part of news which greatly indicated that this is just speculation. Well we don't know why, but we can speculate why did you leave that part of quote out of your post..since that part would change so much..

These rules are the same for everyone and everyone can try to take advantage out of these loopholes. There are no moral problem in this because everyone are trying to make their car as best as possible and since their car aren't against rules. 

This engine reliability fix thingy has been there for long time and it left pretty big loop hole there and it was speculated that some teams like Honda could take advantage from this.

I think we both can agree that FIA haven't done good enough job with rules in recent years (Well I have good feelings on those 2009 rule changes on aerodynamics and tyres. Should make overtaking much easier).

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There have been rule changes to slow down big teams if they are superior. They did try (and succeeded) to slow Williams in early 90's by banning loads of electronics. They did try and succeeded to slow McLaren down in early 1998 by banning McLaren's braking system that had been aproved by FIA, They did try and succeeded to slow down Ferrari for season 2005 by making big new rules on very late stages of 2004 season when Ferrari had their new car almost ready (they were greatly ahead everyone else in their developement program) forcing them to develope new car fast.

Absolute garbage!

If anyone would care to actually READ the 2008 Technical regulations, it might save these ill-informed conspiracy theories. The engine "freeze" does NOT mean that nothing can be changed or improved!

From the 2008 Regulations ...
Engine homologation:
An engine delivered to the FIA no later than 31st March 2008. Other than the specific exceptions below, any such engine must include all the parts described in Article 5.4.4 of the 2008 Technical Regulations and be identical to one which completed two Race Events during the 2007 Championship season.

The exceptions are:

a) the homologated parts of the intake system up to and including the air filter, fuel rail and injectors, ignition coils, engine mounted sensors and wiring, alternator, cooling pumps and oil pumps need not be identical to the parts used during the 2007 Championship season.

... other exceptions are then listed.

So, there are LOTS of bits which could be be changed prior to this season. These changes do NOT need to fall under the umbrella of "improving reliability". It isn't even necessary to look for a "loophole". It ISN'T a case of the FIA "allowing" Ferrari to make changes. It's written in black and white for anyone who can read. ALL the teams could make changes to these parts. All teams probably DID make changes to these parts.

Then again, why let the facts get in the way of another conspiracy theory?