For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

I know Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi) were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis is better than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

With that logic you must admit ,: Vettel, Webber, Barichello , Button are better than Hamilton. By the way Hamilton is 20 points behind one in frond of him and just 1 point better than Kimi.

Doesn't look that bright now, does it ?

monial:

With that logic you must admit ,: Vettel, Webber, Barichello , Button are better than Hamilton. By the way Hamilton is 20 points behind one in frond of him and just 1 point better than Kimi.

Doesn't look that bright now, does it ?

I wasn't comparing McLaren to Brawn and Red Bull as Brawn had a head start in the improved diffuser and McLaren and Ferrari let themselves down by not putting enough into their 2009 car in 2008 when they were challenging for the WCC and WDC.

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

I know Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi) were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis is better than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Idiotic

lewishamiltonmclaren:

I wasn't comparing McLaren to Brawn and Red Bull as Brawn had a head start in the improved diffuser and McLaren and Ferrari let themselves down by not putting enough into their 2009 car in 2008 when they were challenging for the WCC and WDC.

The whole  your logic is wrong. Kimi is worst than Hamilton because Heiki and Badoer...something.. ? What sort of statement is that ? I don't think either of them is better or worst. 

We'll soon see whether Kimi is better than Lewis if they end up on the same team.

no t.c.:

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

Iknow Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi)were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis isbetter than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Idiotic

no need to be insulting, what has he said that has hurt you so much that you feel the need to insult him? if you don't agree with his opinion tell him so and say why. there should be enough room for respect in here.

monial:

lewishamiltonmclaren:

I wasn't comparing McLaren to Brawn and Red Bull as Brawn had a head start in the improved diffuser and McLaren and Ferrari let themselves down by not putting enough into their 2009 car in 2008 when they were challenging for the WCC and WDC.

The whole  your logic is wrong. Kimi is worst than Hamilton because Heiki and Badoer...something.. ? What sort of statement is that ? I don't think either of them is better or worst. 

 

I said Kimi was a worse driver than Lewis as he doesn't push his car, he's lazy and scored 1 less point.

aveli666:

no t.c.:

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

Iknow Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi)were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis isbetter than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Idiotic

no need to be insulting, what has he said that has hurt you so much that you feel the need to insult him? if you don't agree with his opinion tell him so and say why. there should be enough room for respect in here.

 

Well, no one said idiot. It was said IDIOTIC , because it is.

monial:

aveli666:

no t.c.:

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

Iknow Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi)were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis isbetter than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Idiotic

no need to be insulting, what has he said that has hurt you so much that you feel the need to insult him? if you don't agree with his opinion tell him so and say why. there should be enough room for respect in here.

 

Well, no one said idiot. It was said IDIOTIC , because it is.

I think people are not allowed to have their own opinions on this forum and think their own view is the correct one which makes them childish.

lewishamiltonmclaren:

monial:

aveli666:

no t.c.:

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

Iknow Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi)were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis isbetter than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Idiotic

no need to be insulting, what has he said that has hurt you so much that you feel the need to insult him? if you don't agree with his opinion tell him so and say why. there should be enough room for respect in here.

 

Well, no one said idiot. It was said IDIOTIC , because it is.

I think people are not allowed to have their own opinions on this forum and think their own view is the correct one which makes them childish.

 Nothing new here 

I meant to say

 

I think some people think that others are not allowed to have their own opinions on this forum and think their own view is the correct one which makes them childish.

aveli666:

no t.c.:

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

Iknow Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi)were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis isbetter than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Idiotic

no need to be insulting, what has he said that has hurt you so much that you feel the need to insult him? if you don't agree with his opinion tell him so and say why. there should be enough room for respect in here.

I wasn't being  insulting lad, I was being observant. Don;t let your emotions gonvern your posts aveli, I've noticed you do this a little too much. I'm sure you can improve though :)

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

I know Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi) were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis is better than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Ok, can I ask, with all honesty, how old are you? I just need to make sense of something.

lewishamiltonmclaren:

For the first time in years, McLaren have beaten Ferrari in the constructors wars by 1 point.

I know Massa was out for half the season and his deputy (Badoer and Fisi) were not up to scratch, but neither has Heiki, so this means Lewis is better than Kimi, despite Kimi getting paid more.

I also know Ferrari stopped devloping their car while McLaren have pushed ahead with improvements in Singapore, but they have been thrashed this year, but I expect both to be much stronger next season.

Kovi managed to score the same number of points over the whole season as Massa did with just 5 races! The Ferrari was hardly the class of the field this year but that statistic speaks volumes.

McLaren would have beat Ferrari last year had they had a half decent driver to partner Hamilton. This is the primary reason Kovi now faces looking for another seat for next year.