frannyp:

I'm not a mum either but I suspect if Viv had been a bit more diplomatic with Nicola she would have complied.  But of course Viv being Viv she went at it like a bull at a gate which immediately put Nicola's back up.  I personnally don't have a problem with it but a lot of people do and maybe Nicola could have turned her back like some people have suggested, I certainly wouldn't want to feed my baby in a loo however clean it may be.  Having said all that I think Nicola has turned out to be a great mum despite all her doubts when she first found out she was pregnant, it has been the making of her she, Jimmy and Angelica make a lovely family.  As to the poster who said what next changing nappies on the table - of course not that's completely different. 

I actually experienced a mother changing her baby's nappy in public at a greyhound stadium whilst we were all eating and drinking at the next table.  She put the weeks old baby on the floor between the tables and changed it and when I pointed out that we were eating and drinking and this wasn't the place to put a small baby - filthy shoes had been walking on the carpet which had been in dog kennels - she just said there were no baby facilities so what was she to do?  She later proceded to breast feed as well, not really the environment for that either.

lija38:

"Not all people are happy to see a woman with her boobs out brest feeding.

 

Are you in the real world????

What is wrong with something so natural?? I bet you don't moan when you look at models getting them out for a living! 

I am not quite sure how I should interpret this posting.  Are you saying that a boob is not a boob if a baby is feeding, and can be whipped out anywhere, at any time.  But if a model whips one out in public, she becomes a figure of sensuality?

If Angelica wants to snack in a public cafe or pub, she should have her food decanted first.  Nicola should carry a bottle for emergencies and if she's too bone idle to express milk, use a formula.  If we're to accept that even this is too much trouble, then I'll go with Daffodillys shawl/blanket over the shoulder.

Both my children were breast fed.

sadperson:

 she just said there were no baby facilities so what was she to do? 

 

She has a point. If there are no facilities provided what is she to do?

nemisis:

daffodilly:

Firstly I don't have children but I have many friends who have had them and many breast fed. But none did it by bearing a breast in public in fact most you would have been hard pressed to even know that was what they were doing. A shawl or muslin or something drapped over the shoulder across the baby and breast hides everything. I think that solves the problem for people who don't like to see it although personally I would rather a baby be fed and happy than screaming and hungry any time !

Head in Lion's mouth here: -

I think that breast feeding should be a private matter and Nicola could have at least positioned herself with her back to the people in the cafe if she insisted on feeding the baby there. 

I do not think that she should have had the baby sitting in the pub at all!!

Breast feeding does make some people uncomfortable and this is a fact, right or wrong and this should be taken into consideration.  What next, changing the nappy on the table in the cafe as they do not have baby changing facilities,  after all changing the baby is as natural as feeding it?

How do people of other faiths view this action, do they find it offensive if exposing even a woman's hair is not permitted?

 

 

 

Thank God for you Nemisis!  I have been reading through these posts after not getting chance for a few days and I am in the camp that thinks it's not for the best in public too. Not because I am a prude, far from it, but I remember the first time my sister in law popped hers out in our living room to feed my neice, about 25 years ago, my Dad didn't know where to put himself!

My better half and I disagreed over this when it was shown, he is a Dad and is in the 'It's perfectly natural, what's wrong with you?' camp, and I have never had (or wanted) to give birth and can only see how inappropriate it is in some places and situations. I know that breastfeediong mothers can express milk and put it in a bottle, and I am sorry but I think that on certain occasions this should be done. If someone whipped them out in a pub or cafe when I was there I too would feel very uncomfortable, and I know that that does not put me in a minority of one. I'm not saying the thing shouldn't be fed, I'd certainly rather that than the resultant screaming, just that there are other ways.

Puts head back below parapet in readiness for barrage of unfriendly fire!

herne:

You are not in a minority of one, i like cider.  Please re-read my posting earlier on this thread.

Yes I think my original post suggested it was not normal to whip them out anyway - most Mum's when caught out and needing to feed use a shawl to hide what is happening - unless you were very nosey you just wouldn't know what was happening.

herne:

You are not in a minority of one, i like cider.  Please re-read my posting earlier on this thread.

There has been a bit of an altercation on the Faye/Natasha thread about postings being mis-read and I want to apologise for mis-reading yours, ILC.  I had a quick glance at the forum before leaving for Heathrow  -  you had typed "this does not put me in a minority of one" and I read it as that you thought you were in a minority of one, and dashed off a quick line to point out that I was in full agreement with you.

  My addiction is getting pretty bad in that I'll let the driver sit in a car with the engine running in preparation for dropping us off at the airport, while I take one last look to see if there are any new postings on the forum.!

herne:

herne:

You are not in a minority of one, i like cider.  Please re-read my posting earlier on this thread.

There has been a bit of an altercation on the Faye/Natasha thread about postings being mis-read and I want to apologise for mis-reading yours, ILC.  I had a quick glance at the forum before leaving for Heathrow  -  you had typed "this does not put me in a minority of one" and I read it as that you thought you were in a minority of one, and dashed off a quick line to point out that I was in full agreement with you.

  My addiction is getting pretty bad in that I'll let the driver sit in a car with the engine running in preparation for dropping us off at the airport, while I take one last look to see if there are any new postings on the forum.!

 

Lol, no worries, I re-read my post myself and guessed that was what happened,perhaps with both of you, seems I may not be as waspish as vader (joke before you start on me Vader!)

Breast feeding is a natural thing! Babys and mothers benefit from it and it is a positive thing! We all know what breasts look like so whats the problem! Its not as if these mothers take there tops off and bellydance around the place! Most of them you would never even notice! If you hav a problem with it then look away or leave because you are in the minority!

electricruby:

Breast feeding is a natural thing! Babys and mothers benefit from it and it is a positive thing! We all know what breasts look like so whats the problem! Its not as if these mothers take there tops off and bellydance around the place! Most of them you would never even notice! If you hav a problem with it then look away or leave because you are in the minority!

i like cider:

I know that breastfeediong mothers can express milk and put it in a bottle, and I am sorry but I think that on certain occasions this should be done.

I'm a very proud breastfeeding mum and whilst I can express, my daughter simply refuses point blank to take any milk (either expressed or formula) from a bottle, cup or anything else that's not me, so it's not as simple as you make it sound.  Have a heart and think of the way the mum feels - usually when her baby shows signs of being hungry, they are already attracting attention from other people, so the last thing she needs is to be 'tutted' at, asked to leave, or stared at etc etc when she manages to get her little one to have a feed.

My local cafe owner actually praised me for feeding my baby whilst I was at lunch the other day and thankfully I didn't have one disapproving glance or gesture (well, not that I saw anyway!).  It's not as if we're trying to get people to look at us, so if it offends you, sorry, but my baby has to eat, and does eat, whereever she wants to!

and I forgot to add... we are allowed, BY LAW, to breastfeed in public places.

http://www.babiesnappies.co.uk/2008/07/20/breastfeeding-in-public-the-laws-made-clear/