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Re: Who will Turkey favour?

deano22 — Thu, 08 May 2008 12:33:36 GMT

kiwi f1:
Definitely looking like a Ferrari 1 2 again,last year Massa got pole on hevier fuel load than Kimi and then won the race therefore looks good for whover gets pole again? Massa's fastest lap immediately before pitstop whereas Kimi saved his for penultimate lap...whats the point.

I think he just enjoys putting the peddle to the metal sometimes when the track is at it's fastest, notably he does it in races when he's been just behind someone all race and hasn't really had the chance to see what he can do. Also he's 5th on the all time fastest laps list, 1 behind Clark, so maybe that's his agenda.

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

kiwi f1 — Mon, 05 May 2008 07:10:43 GMT

Definitely looking like a Ferrari 1 2 again,last year Massa got pole on hevier fuel load than Kimi and then won the race therefore looks good for whover gets pole again? Massa's fastest lap immediately before pitstop whereas Kimi saved his for penultimate lap...whats the point. Following spain massa will be out to prove a point, if he can stay mistake free in Q3 he will be the man to beat.Dont remember what happened to LH last year but he was 45secs adrift at finish.

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

donkeykong — Sun, 04 May 2008 15:39:18 GMT

It would have been great to see the racing in the wet. It would have potentially thrown up a few surprises! I still feel Kimi will be the man to beat as he is at the moment on fire. Massa, i feel has lost a little confidence. Massa may have won last two times but Kimi was new in Ferrari last year ( getting used to the bridgestone tires etc) and before that he was not in one. Kimi 1. Massa 2 may be hamilton 3 but probably KUbica or Heidfeld more likely.

Should be fun to watch anyway!

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

anametoremember — Sun, 04 May 2008 12:35:59 GMT

Mercedes boss talking about McLarens chances in Turkey!

I am a no bull type of person and appreciate the honesty..realistically that is all we can do. And I know where I stand as I watch the race.

http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42497

Extracts taken from the itvs news article.

Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug thinks McLaren has little hope of beating Ferrari in next weekend's Turkish Grand Prix.

Ferrari has now taken two consecutive one-two finishes and pulled clear in both championships - and while McLaren closed the gap a little in Spain, Haug expects his team to continue trailing the Italian cars in Istanbul.

"Barcelona, as the first grand prix of the European season and with its challenging track layout, is definitely a yardstick for the following races," Haug said.

"Even with the same fuel load we wouldn’t have been fast enough to beat Ferrari (to pole).

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

stevvy — Sun, 04 May 2008 10:43:56 GMT

Probably Ferrari,not sure which driver as Massa goes well there-though given that its rather wet in istanbul today,im gutted we had to have a 3 weeks break between Bahrain and Spain,or else we'd be sitting down to watch the first wet race (first wet session even) since TC,engine braking etc were got rid of

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

donkeykong — Sun, 04 May 2008 08:31:42 GMT

Kimi and Ferrari - Not contest- There is no debate !!!!!

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

no t.c. — Sat, 03 May 2008 20:36:55 GMT

anametoremember:
no t.c.:
larkspur:
anametoremember:
RaggedEdge:
anametoremember:
RaggedEdge:

nicekim:
We are talking about track where Massa were on next level upwards even compared to M.Schumacher.

Is this statement in preperation for the event that Massa outclasses Kimi, yet again...?

I never recall any expectation of Massa dominating Schumacher at any track... this phenomina seems to have come about after Kimi failed to beat Massa on a fairly consistent basis...

RE are you a Gemini

What traits do Gemini's have that would relate to me?

I'm a Virgo, and this is what I found out about it:

"Virgo: You are blessed with an eye for detail that many would love to possess."

Well you remind of my brother who never gives up, restless, loves technology, needs more, aggrivates and teases peoples and enjoys doing it, likes a joke, not bothered; then can be bothered and doesnt listen to anyone else...does that sum you up?

Here is a paragraph I got of online about a Gemini from Kelly's stars signs.

Gemini's have amazing brains. They store data like you wouldn't believe. Lots of people think they talk garbage but this is because their minds move faster than their mouth. Gemini's are generous, affectionate and impulsive and hate hanging around. Boredom and relaxing frightens them. If they're not on the move they go mad. They are great with kids because they never grow up themselves. If you have a Gemini friend, life will never be dull. They love to be respected; this is pretty hard because they're so changeable. In fact, they are often prone to losing their train of thought mid sentence. They're practical jokers too, but can get aggravated if someone turns the trick on them.

I am not into stars signs, much (slightly more relgious than that) but you remind me of my brother ALOT. The only thing I would say is that you never lose your trail of thought lol that is one thing you are not guilty of.

Yes, he's like a dog with a bone!

Or maybe just an ill mannered dog...

And with a comment like that I guess you must have looked right in the mirror...at yourself!

Nope. I was sitting here in front of my comp and couldn't resist.

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

anametoremember — Sat, 03 May 2008 19:39:08 GMT

no t.c.:
larkspur:
anametoremember:
RaggedEdge:
anametoremember:
RaggedEdge:

nicekim:
We are talking about track where Massa were on next level upwards even compared to M.Schumacher.

Is this statement in preperation for the event that Massa outclasses Kimi, yet again...?

I never recall any expectation of Massa dominating Schumacher at any track... this phenomina seems to have come about after Kimi failed to beat Massa on a fairly consistent basis...

RE are you a Gemini

What traits do Gemini's have that would relate to me?

I'm a Virgo, and this is what I found out about it:

"Virgo: You are blessed with an eye for detail that many would love to possess."

Well you remind of my brother who never gives up, restless, loves technology, needs more, aggrivates and teases peoples and enjoys doing it, likes a joke, not bothered; then can be bothered and doesnt listen to anyone else...does that sum you up?

Here is a paragraph I got of online about a Gemini from Kelly's stars signs.

Gemini's have amazing brains. They store data like you wouldn't believe. Lots of people think they talk garbage but this is because their minds move faster than their mouth. Gemini's are generous, affectionate and impulsive and hate hanging around. Boredom and relaxing frightens them. If they're not on the move they go mad. They are great with kids because they never grow up themselves. If you have a Gemini friend, life will never be dull. They love to be respected; this is pretty hard because they're so changeable. In fact, they are often prone to losing their train of thought mid sentence. They're practical jokers too, but can get aggravated if someone turns the trick on them.

I am not into stars signs, much (slightly more relgious than that) but you remind me of my brother ALOT. The only thing I would say is that you never lose your trail of thought lol that is one thing you are not guilty of.

Yes, he's like a dog with a bone!

Or maybe just an ill mannered dog...

And with a comment like that I guess you must have looked right in the mirror...at yourself!

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

no t.c. — Sat, 03 May 2008 19:20:59 GMT

larkspur:
anametoremember:
RaggedEdge:
anametoremember:
RaggedEdge:

nicekim:
We are talking about track where Massa were on next level upwards even compared to M.Schumacher.

Is this statement in preperation for the event that Massa outclasses Kimi, yet again...?

I never recall any expectation of Massa dominating Schumacher at any track... this phenomina seems to have come about after Kimi failed to beat Massa on a fairly consistent basis...

RE are you a Gemini

What traits do Gemini's have that would relate to me?

I'm a Virgo, and this is what I found out about it:

"Virgo: You are blessed with an eye for detail that many would love to possess."

Well you remind of my brother who never gives up, restless, loves technology, needs more, aggrivates and teases peoples and enjoys doing it, likes a joke, not bothered; then can be bothered and doesnt listen to anyone else...does that sum you up?

Here is a paragraph I got of online about a Gemini from Kelly's stars signs.

Gemini's have amazing brains. They store data like you wouldn't believe. Lots of people think they talk garbage but this is because their minds move faster than their mouth. Gemini's are generous, affectionate and impulsive and hate hanging around. Boredom and relaxing frightens them. If they're not on the move they go mad. They are great with kids because they never grow up themselves. If you have a Gemini friend, life will never be dull. They love to be respected; this is pretty hard because they're so changeable. In fact, they are often prone to losing their train of thought mid sentence. They're practical jokers too, but can get aggravated if someone turns the trick on them.

I am not into stars signs, much (slightly more relgious than that) but you remind me of my brother ALOT. The only thing I would say is that you never lose your trail of thought lol that is one thing you are not guilty of.

Yes, he's like a dog with a bone!

Or maybe just an ill mannered dog...

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

thefastone — Sat, 03 May 2008 08:41:48 GMT

my predictions for istanbul : 1. Massa 2. Kimi 3......not sure

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

justrace — Sat, 03 May 2008 07:37:52 GMT

RaggedEdge:
Michael was on average 0.5 seconds quicker then Massa... that explains why team orders made perfect sense.

With Kimi, the difference is marginally slower then Massa, which means team orders are not justified...Letting a slower driver through makes no sense...

Did it ever occur to you that Massa may have improved? Maybe the difference to Schumacher would now only be marginal as well.

Schumacher was not always the fastest, in particular in qualifying. But he for sure was one of the most consistent, and a team should always favour that driver. I think if you are only looking at speed you might be overlooking a number of other important reasons. A lesson McLaren should have taken away from last year.

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

champalonso — Fri, 02 May 2008 16:55:07 GMT

motiman:

xlabratx:
People who think Massa got overtaken by Raikkonen in Brazil by just raw pace must be abit delerious and can't handle the truth. I think he should have won it and Massa being a nice guy and driver let him past as a sign of respect.

There's no way Massa let Raikkonen through as a sign of respect. The last thing Felipe would have wanted was to see Kimi win the championship as it would further highlight the fact that he is slower. I do believe he was slightly faster then kimi on that day but had to play second fiddle as there is no way he could face the team having cost them the WDC. He slowed down for the team, not Raikkonen.

Not so sure about that, motiman. Massa has the privilege of driving for Ferrari and wants to keep it. If he hadn't supported Kimi (who unlike him had the chance of winning the WDC in Brazil) then I don't think he'd have kept his dream job for long!

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

roomey — Fri, 02 May 2008 15:44:43 GMT

Think it will favour the Ferrari's 1-2.

Hamilton 3rd again.

Massa winner.

Kimi MIGHT have a bad weekend :P

I can hope right? :P

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

anametoremember — Fri, 02 May 2008 15:43:03 GMT

motiman:

xlabratx:
People who think Massa got overtaken by Raikkonen in Brazil by just raw pace must be abit delerious and can't handle the truth. I think he should have won it and Massa being a nice guy and driver let him past as a sign of respect.

There's no way Massa let Raikkonen through as a sign of respect. The last thing Felipe would have wanted was to see Kimi win the championship as it would further highlight the fact that he is slower. I do believe he was slightly faster then kimi on that day but had to play second fiddle as there is no way he could face the team having cost them the WDC. He slowed down for the team, not Raikkonen.

Whether he slowed down for the team or kimi is neither here no there, he had orders to roll over for Kimi, but given the fact that he was not realstically in the title hunt and Hamilton would have won if he didnt....makes it alright I guess!

Re: Who will Turkey favour?

motiman — Fri, 02 May 2008 15:37:10 GMT

xlabratx:
People who think Massa got overtaken by Raikkonen in Brazil by just raw pace must be abit delerious and can't handle the truth. I think he should have won it and Massa being a nice guy and driver let him past as a sign of respect.

There's no way Massa let Raikkonen through as a sign of respect. The last thing Felipe would have wanted was to see Kimi win the championship as it would further highlight the fact that he is slower. I do believe he was slightly faster then kimi on that day but had to play second fiddle as there is no way he could face the team having cost them the WDC. He slowed down for the team, not Raikkonen.