aveli666:do the facts that Fangio won five world championships almost in a different car every year, Ferrari, Lancia, Maserati or Mercedes, didn't start his f1 career until the age of 39 and won 24 out of 52 races make him the most successful driver of all time?   Do they. That would be a matter of opinion.

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''Wax is Dead, Long Live Ron''   Wax->Ron, Wax off

I think one has to worry when people believe their own opinion is fact and have no idea this mix up is being made.

Never mind the tyre contact patch. What about the contact patch with reality. Surely this is a factor in any theory put forward.

the_hump: A couple of people are suggesting we need Stigga but I believe its you two who need to bring some rational thought upon this here forum....     Great humour

justrace: the_hump:Justrace, I was simply pointing out that Alonso was not innoccent by any standards, they were probably two of the most competetive people on the grid at the time, it was bound to go wrong. I dont see how Hamilton defieing his strategy was a bad thing, I have full respect to the man for standing up to RD, maybe the likes of ...

anametoremember: riconb: jim kowalski: ''mis-directed drag''??? If you ask me this poster is like a conjuror,full of mis-direction,always keeping the hands moving so you can't see they're fooling you. Even the poster's username contains the number 666,usually taken (some say erroneously) as the number of the 'beast' ...perhaps a hint that ...

jim kowalski: ''mis-directed drag''??? If you ask me this poster is like a conjuror,full of mis-direction,always keeping the hands moving so you can't see they're fooling you. Even the poster's username contains the number 666,usually taken (some say erroneously) as the number of the 'beast' ...perhaps a hint that they are playing 'devil's ...

aveli666:facts can't be argued with. ''with closer consultation with his design team, hamilton emerges with a superior car'' You cannot state as fact something you don't have factual evidence of. Please proove with facts (a) That Hamilton had closer consultation with design team. (b) That consulation with design team lead to emergence of ...