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Last post 04-07-2008, 9:37 PM by josecombarro. 55 replies.
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  •  04-06-2008, 2:10 PM 685166

    Commentary and the Lewis incident

    far to overboard on this lewis and Mclaren biased commentary.

    Disgracefull comments made against a proven World Champion vs a very agressive rookie.

    Lets have some real coments made with real facts to make the race more exciting not a load of propoganda to brainwash us all.

  •  04-06-2008, 2:14 PM 685174 in reply to 685166

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    There's nothing wrong with supporting and favoring own heros. British people see that it was Alonso's fault..in Finland they said that it were clearly Hamilton's mistake.
  •  04-06-2008, 2:22 PM 685184 in reply to 685166

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    ju5tin:

    far to overboard on this lewis and Mclaren biased commentary.

    Disgracefull comments made against a proven World Champion vs a very agressive rookie.

    Lets have some real coments made with real facts to make the race more exciting not a load of propoganda to brainwash us all.

     

    Right on the money with that post, Hamiltons more than capable of making excuses for himself, he doesn't need Allen and Co making them for him.

  •  04-06-2008, 3:28 PM 685275 in reply to 685166

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    i fully agree with the commentators------------this incident needs clearing up ------------hiding the evidence by not showing repays or in the fullness of time THE TELEMETRY--(that will prove the point once and for all).is just like rules regarding yellow flags not applying to red cars.     this seasons regulation has been poor----perhaps when the fia get a minute , could confirm which rules apply to which teams.
  •  04-06-2008, 3:37 PM 685284 in reply to 685166

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    ju5tin:

    far to overboard on this lewis and Mclaren biased commentary.

    Disgracefull comments made against a proven World Champion vs a very agressive rookie.

    Lets have some real coments made with real facts to make the race more exciting not a load of propoganda to brainwash us all.

    Someone who has some sense!

    No one know what happened accept Alonso.  And it was nice to see we got the press conference at the end of the race (Yes, that was sarcasm) I thought it was bang out of order saying that Alonso brake tested Hamilton just because Hamilton misjudged something after a bad start.

     At first i think Martin put it down to a mistake, until James started saying that people around the paddock are mouthing "Break Test!". How could Allen possibly know that? At the begining after the grid walk he was saying how far away the comentary box is from the track/pits.

    I wonder if they will apologise to Alonso if it wasnt a brake test.
     

  •  04-06-2008, 3:43 PM 685294 in reply to 685166

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    ju5tin:

    far to overboard on this lewis and Mclaren biased commentary.

    Disgracefull comments made against a proven World Champion vs a very agressive rookie.

    Lets have some real coments made with real facts to make the race more exciting not a load of propoganda to brainwash us all.

    Can you get a tape recorder and just hear yourself, what are you on about. I bet Finnish commentators where slighlty disappointed Kimi didnt overtake Massa, and I would place 1000 euros Spanish commentators were slighlty happy Hamiltons crashed into the back of Alonso. Get a clue and stop buzzing around like a mosquito.

  •  04-06-2008, 3:46 PM 685301 in reply to 685275

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    steveobrien:
    i fully agree with the commentators------------this incident needs clearing up ------------hiding the evidence by not showing repays or in the fullness of time THE TELEMETRY--(that will prove the point once and for all).is just like rules regarding yellow flags not applying to red cars.     this seasons regulation has been poor----perhaps when the fia get a minute , could confirm which rules apply to which teams.

    For your information, i think the reason Massa didn't get punished was because the yellow flag came out so late. Martin Brundle said yesterday during quali that there should be a yellow flag before the corner warning drivers before the corner. This didn't in time because Massa was already in the corner at that time. Another second or two later then yes maybe a penalty, but not in this case.

  •  04-06-2008, 3:48 PM 685303 in reply to 685284

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    Mr.Woody:
    ju5tin:

    far to overboard on this lewis and Mclaren biased commentary.

    Disgracefull comments made against a proven World Champion vs a very agressive rookie.

    Lets have some real coments made with real facts to make the race more exciting not a load of propoganda to brainwash us all.

    Someone who has some sense!

    No one know what happened accept Alonso.  And it was nice to see we got the press conference at the end of the race (Yes, that was sarcasm) I thought it was bang out of order saying that Alonso brake tested Hamilton just because Hamilton misjudged something after a bad start.

     At first i think Martin put it down to a mistake, until James started saying that people around the paddock are mouthing "Break Test!". How could Allen possibly know that? At the begining after the grid walk he was saying how far away the comentary box is from the track/pits.

    I wonder if they will apologise to Alonso if it wasnt a brake test.
     

    It was Ted Kravitz that reported from the Mclaren garage after seeing a bunch of Mclaren mechanics mouthing "Break test!", it wasn't James saying it!  Second, Martin was just suspicious that it was some kind of break test or lifiting, partly because of what Ted reported and partly because of the fact that he knows the history behind the two drivers.  He also was about to say "That's not the person Hamilton wants to be behind right now!".

    Sorry but no one said "HE BRAKE TESTED HIM", they simply suggested it could have been and, in fact, after seeing the onboard footage, I do believe Martin at least became unsure of what happened and started suggesting that Lewis simply drove into the back of him.  Furthermore, Martin (when someone (possibly Ted again) said that Mclaren weren't thinking of appealing to the stewards) said that if he were in the position of Mclaren, he'd definatly want to see the data just to be sure there wasn't any foul play!

    Honestly guys, calm down!

  •  04-06-2008, 3:59 PM 685321 in reply to 685174

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    No there is nothing wrong with supporting our own...............UNLESS your name is Button, Davidson, or Coulthard.

     As for this incident. I hear people say things like Alonso lifted, Alonso braked. Let me ask you, why would a 2 times world champion jepardise his own race in spite of a reckless boy wonder??? Maybe the golden boy isnt so great, and also i can bet you as much money in the world that if the drivers were reversed........Alonso would be at fault for driving into the back of Hamilton..............ITV just want to fuel the fire against Fernando Alonso.

  •  04-06-2008, 4:21 PM 685344 in reply to 685303

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    It was a faster McLaren, running into a struddling Renault, Hamiltons Mclaren is a much faster car,than Alonso. Alonso can be clearly heard asking his team "what hit me" ....but of course it was Hamilton that is the innocent party, maybe he should have his eyes tested if he could not see a slower car infront of him!!
  •  04-06-2008, 4:35 PM 685352 in reply to 685301

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    hi

    i did watch quallifying live,-----you may well be right -----but again due to lack of evidence being produced showing when the flags were deployed at the previous corner---who knows???  what i seen on uktv looked like an infrigment.-------i personally consider that there no reason for yellow flags anyway ,as sato had parked up safely.

  •  04-06-2008, 4:39 PM 685355 in reply to 685344

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    If it was a brake test, Hamilton failed it abysmally.
  •  04-06-2008, 4:40 PM 685357 in reply to 685174

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    nicekim:
    There's nothing wrong with supporting and favoring own heros. British people see that it was Alonso's fault..in Finland they said that it were clearly Hamilton's mistake.

    Finland is fully of Kimi fans... so their viewpoint is fully understood as far as LH goes...

    Still, I have to admit, it happened far too quickly for me to make any accurate judgement on, but I do respect Martin's viewpoint as a driver, and he was highly suspicious of Alonso...

    The facts will come out, and then we will be free to stick knives into Alonso, who is very keen to impress the Ferrari people with his loyalty...

    Not too sure Renault will be happy to sacrifice their car, so Alonso can give a gift to Ferrari though...!

  •  04-06-2008, 4:41 PM 685358 in reply to 685344

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    Well said, its worth noting also that Lewis has not blamed Alonso, but himself.

     

  •  04-06-2008, 4:42 PM 685359 in reply to 685344

    Re: Commentary and the Lewis incident

    Here's what Brundle says immediately after Hamilton hit Alonso:

    "Some how or other, Alonso failed to uh, continue accelerating or Hamilton got a run at him, climbed up the back I think the front suspension should be okay..."

    I know he went on to talk about whether Alonso brake tested him or not, but that doesn't sound biased to me at all.  Also, let's not forget that Alonso's car was handling TERRIBLY all day!
     

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