Personally I think this overpaid arrogant little boy racer should be thrown out of formula one before somebody gets killed by his totally reckless behaviour behind the wheel.

Ihave followed F1 for more years than I care to remember and to hear Lewis Hamiltons name compared to the likes of Ayrton Senna & Michael Shumacher is ludicrous in the extreme I would not trust him with a Reliant Robin.

My point was proved earlier this year when he crashed into the back of a Ferarri showing the world he didnt know a red light means STOP.

I personally look forward to a day without Lewis Hamilton trying to drive a gloryfied German taxi around the worlds race circuits.

Please MASSA beat this child on Sunday and shut this cocky arrogant bighead up  once & for all

the reason lewis is being compaired to shumacher and he was called reckless behind the wheel and cocky and arrogant and he won seven world titles get off his back

 Put  Lewis in an average car & he would become the average pathetic driver making up the numbers that he really is.He learnt one thing from Alain Prost engineer your main opposition out of the team get him replaced with a second or third rate driver who will not challenge you & instantly you start to look good.Ron Dennis should have sacked L Hamilton &kept Alonso as he has proved on numerous occasions this season that he is the superior talent.If Lewis wants to be in F1 so much give him a job he could probably do E.G Mclaren tea boy or the team gofor.

 

glitsy:

Personally I think this overpaid arrogant little boy racer should be thrown out of formula one before somebody gets killed by his totally reckless behaviour behind the wheel.

Ihave followed F1 for more years than I care to remember and to hear Lewis Hamiltons name compared to the likes of Ayrton Senna & Michael Shumacher is ludicrous in the extreme I would not trust him with a Reliant Robin.

My point was proved earlier this year when he crashed into the back of a Ferarri showing the world he didnt know a red light means STOP.

I personally look forward to a day without Lewis Hamilton trying to drive a gloryfied German taxi around the worlds race circuits.

Please MASSA beat this child on Sunday and shut this cocky arrogant bighead up  once & for all

whatever you think of LH as a person you can't deny he has been a breath of fresh air to a sport which was going stale fast he's still only a rookie and everyone makes mistakes everybody lambasts him for his dangerous driving f1 is an inherantly dangerous sport this season lewis has caused two collisions one driving up the back of alonso (which looked suspiciously like a brake test by alonso) and then the pit lane inncident at montreal which was a stupid rookie mistake but not very dangerous as the drivers are only going 30 mph in the pit lane nico rosberg made exactly the same mistake but i don't hear anyone demanding that he be thrown out of f1 for it when you compare these minor incidents to raikonen a very experianced driver flying out of the tunnel at monaco completely loseing control of his car and useing poor sutil as a brake they pale into insignificance. the only people who don't want LH in the sport are alonso fans because of the spygate scandal which LH had nothing to do with and ferrari fans who just want the schumacher days back so we can all watch boreing races with a red car winning every time. come on LH is a british driver driveing for a british team where is your patriotism ferrari fans are just like londoners who support manchester united just because they win nearly everything all the time i call them glory supporters as for LH being a dangerous driver f1 is a dangerous sport dangerous inccidents are always going to happen whoever is driving there is an old saying       "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen"

Well balanced view , large chip on each shoulder , lighten up old chap !

sanian1:

glitsy:

Personally I think this overpaid arrogant little boy racer should be thrown out of formula one before somebody gets killed by his totally reckless behaviour behind the wheel.

Ihave followed F1 for more years than I care to remember and to hear Lewis Hamiltons name compared to the likes of Ayrton Senna & Michael Shumacher is ludicrous in the extreme I would not trust him with a Reliant Robin.

My point was proved earlier this year when he crashed into the back of a Ferarri showing the world he didnt know a red light means STOP.

I personally look forward to a day without Lewis Hamilton trying to drive a gloryfied German taxi around the worlds race circuits.

Please MASSA beat this child on Sunday and shut this cocky arrogant bighead up  once & for all

whatever you think of LH as a person you can't deny he has been a breath of fresh air to a sport which was going stale fast he's still only a rookie and everyone makes mistakes everybody lambasts him for his dangerous driving f1 is an inherantly dangerous sport this season lewis has caused two collisions one driving up the back of alonso (which looked suspiciously like a brake test by alonso) and then the pit lane inncident at montreal which was a stupid rookie mistake but not very dangerous as the drivers are only going 30 mph in the pit lane nico rosberg made exactly the same mistake but i don't hear anyone demanding that he be thrown out of f1 for it when you compare these minor incidents to raikonen a very experianced driver flying out of the tunnel at monaco completely loseing control of his car and useing poor sutil as a brake they pale into insignificance. the only people who don't want LH in the sport are alonso fans because of the spygate scandal which LH had nothing to do with and ferrari fans who just want the schumacher days back so we can all watch boreing races with a red car winning every time. come on LH is a british driver driveing for a british team where is your patriotism ferrari fans are just like londoners who support manchester united just because they win nearly everything all the time i call them glory supporters as for LH being a dangerous driver f1 is a dangerous sport dangerous inccidents are always going to happen whoever is driving there is an old saying       "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen"

sanian1:

glitsy:

Personally I think this overpaid arrogant little boy racer should be thrown out of formula one before somebody gets killed by his totally reckless behaviour behind the wheel.

Ihave followed F1 for more years than I care to remember and to hear Lewis Hamiltons name compared to the likes of Ayrton Senna & Michael Shumacher is ludicrous in the extreme I would not trust him with a Reliant Robin.

My point was proved earlier this year when he crashed into the back of a Ferarri showing the world he didnt know a red light means STOP.

I personally look forward to a day without Lewis Hamilton trying to drive a gloryfied German taxi around the worlds race circuits.

Please MASSA beat this child on Sunday and shut this cocky arrogant bighead up  once & for all

whatever you think of LH as a person you can't deny he has been a breath of fresh air to a sport which was going stale fast he's still only a rookie and everyone makes mistakes everybody lambasts him for his dangerous driving f1 is an inherantly dangerous sport this season lewis has caused two collisions one driving up the back of alonso (which looked suspiciously like a brake test by alonso) and then the pit lane inncident at montreal which was a stupid rookie mistake but not very dangerous as the drivers are only going 30 mph in the pit lane nico rosberg made exactly the same mistake but i don't hear anyone demanding that he be thrown out of f1 for it when you compare these minor incidents to raikonen a very experianced driver flying out of the tunnel at monaco completely loseing control of his car and useing poor sutil as a brake they pale into insignificance. the only people who don't want LH in the sport are alonso fans because of the spygate scandal which LH had nothing to do with and ferrari fans who just want the schumacher days back so we can all watch boreing races with a red car winning every time. come on LH is a british driver driveing for a british team where is your patriotism ferrari fans are just like londoners who support manchester united just because they win nearly everything all the time i call them glory supporters as for LH being a dangerous driver f1 is a dangerous sport dangerous inccidents are always going to happen whoever is driving there is an old saying       "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen"

Bit OTT that! 

First of all calling McLaren a British team is a bit inaccurate.  Founded by a New Zealander and the modern team is mostly owned by German and Arab concerns.

Many Ferrari fans were fans before the days of Michael Schumacher and if you can't remember personally then look up some books on F1.  There were periods when Ferrari couldn't win a prize in a raffle and I was still a fan of theirs through that.  Just the same as Williams fans who are going through the same thing now.  REAL FANS.

Not all Ferrari fans are Lewis Bashers and I personally have praised him on this Forum many times.  Just the same as Schumacher's last two seasons when Alonso won the WDC I was pleased for him and recognised that he had done the better job.

glitsy:

Personally I think this overpaid arrogant little boy racer should be thrown out of formula one before somebody gets killed by his totally reckless behaviour behind the wheel.

Ihave followed F1 for more years than I care to remember and to hear Lewis Hamiltons name compared to the likes of Ayrton Senna & Michael Shumacher is ludicrous in the extreme I would not trust him with a Reliant Robin.

My point was proved earlier this year when he crashed into the back of a Ferarri showing the world he didnt know a red light means STOP.

I personally look forward to a day without Lewis Hamilton trying to drive a gloryfied German taxi around the worlds race circuits.

Please MASSA beat this child on Sunday and shut this cocky arrogant bighead up  once & for all

So you don't think much of Lewis Hamilton?

Let's look at the current front runners (top 6) in the world drivers championship by looking at their Career Averages

1) Lewis Hamilton - 34 Gps, 203 points, average 5.97 pts per GP

2) Philipe Massa - 105 Gps, 288 Points, average 2.78 pts per GP

3) Robert Kubica - 39 GPs, 120 points, average 3.07 pts per GP

4) Kimi Räikkönen - 139 GPs, 525 points, average 3.77 pts per GP

5) Nick Heidfeld - 151 GPs, 200 points, average 1.32 pts per GP

6) Fernado Alonso - 122 GPs, 543 points, average 4.45 pts per GP

In only his second season, Lewis already has a better average score that all the others in the current top six WDC positions.

I think if you were as good as him you'd be an 'arrogant little boy racer' unfortunately your only talent lies in making spiteful jelous comments.

 

briscafan:

glitsy:

Personally I think this overpaid arrogant little boy racer should be thrown out of formula one before somebody gets killed by his totally reckless behaviour behind the wheel.

Ihave followed F1 for more years than I care to remember and to hear Lewis Hamiltons name compared to the likes of Ayrton Senna & Michael Shumacher is ludicrous in the extreme I would not trust him with a Reliant Robin.

My point was proved earlier this year when he crashed into the back of a Ferarri showing the world he didnt know a red light means STOP.

I personally look forward to a day without Lewis Hamilton trying to drive a gloryfied German taxi around the worlds race circuits.

Please MASSA beat this child on Sunday and shut this cocky arrogant bighead up  once & for all

So you don't think much of Lewis Hamilton?

Let's look at the current front runners (top 6) in the world drivers championship by looking at their Career Averages

1) Lewis Hamilton - 34 Gps, 203 points, average 5.97 pts per GP

2) Philipe Massa - 105 Gps, 288 Points, average 2.78 pts per GP

3) Robert Kubica - 39 GPs, 120 points, average 3.07 pts per GP

4) Kimi Räikkönen - 139 GPs, 525 points, average 3.77 pts per GP

5) Nick Heidfeld - 151 GPs, 200 points, average 1.32 pts per GP

6) Fernado Alonso - 122 GPs, 543 points, average 4.45 pts per GP

In only his second season, Lewis already has a better average score that all the others in the current top six WDC positions.

I think if you were as good as him you'd be an 'arrogant little boy racer' unfortunately your only talent lies in making spiteful jelous comments.

 

I've got a lot of respect for how Lewis has performed in F1 and think there are few drivers that would have done as well but your stats are a bit misleading.  Obviously RD must have known Lewis would be good or he wouldn't have given him a drive in a McLaren, but you have to take account of the cars the others were in at the start of their careers. 

 Alonso was at Minardi which, to put it kindly, hardly had the pace of even the worst cars McLaren have built and he's not that far behind in your average points comparison.

Life is too short for me to find this info out but if you could find out averages over the last two years I believe that would be a fairer comparison. Averages can be and normally are incredibly misleading. I am now going back to cutting the back grass with some nail scissors as I feel that would be time better spent than wotking that out

franger:

First of all calling McLaren a British team is a bit inaccurate.  Founded by a New Zealander and the modern team is mostly owned by German and Arab concerns.

Spot on - but that's no good to a Hamilton sycophant, it doesn't support all this 'patriot' tripe.

franger:

Alonso was at Minardi which, to put it kindly, hardly had the pace of even the worst cars McLaren have built and he's not that far behind in your average points comparison.

Having watched Lewis come up through the lower formulas he has always impressed and shown what a class driver he is. Yes he has had Ron's backing for much of that time but he was still competing against other drivers in identical machinery. And winning. So not just the car then.

So far I haven't seen him cause a crash by his "reckless" driving. In fact he has managed to avoid collisions (even if the stewards punish him for doing so.) 

His elevation to F1 has renewed my interest in what was becoming more and more a high speed procession and I think I am not the only one. Any driver who has not made a mistake has never really been racing. You have to drive on the limit or you come nowhere. If that results in "reckless2 driving then the rest of the grid should be banned too. That or we just take the qualifing times and announce the winner before the start of the race because there wouldn't be any overtaking for fear of "getting it wrong". 

All the names Hammilton is being called were once directed at Micheal Schumacer so I can only think there is a touch of jealousy in the trailing pack.

peedie88:

Life is too short for me to find this info out but if you could find out averages over the last two years I believe that would be a fairer comparison. Averages can be and normally are incredibly misleading. I am now going back to cutting the back grass with some nail scissors as I feel that would be time better spent than wotking that out

Your wish is my command! - I'm retired so have a bit of time to check the facts and don't have to resort to snide comments about drivers/teams or wild assumptions

2007

Kimi    6.47,   Lewis/Fernando  6.41,   Philipe    5.53,   Nick    3.65,   Robert  2.50 (only 16 races, not 17)

2008

Lewis     5.53,   Philippe   5.12,   Robert   4.41,   KImi   4.06,   Nick  3.53,   Fernando   3.12

The point is that at this stage of his career, Lewis is matching/beating established drivers with more experience than him. 

As for the claim that the other drivers drove uncompetative cars so wouldn't have such good averages, why were they in poorer cars? Simply because at this stage of their careers they didn't show the same amount of talent, although with experience thay have now reached the top. (Didn't Sauber drop Philipe after his first season in F1 and leave him out for a year before re-instating him?)

I'm not saying that LH is the best ever but he does show a lot of potential for even better  performances in the future

 

    

briscafan:

peedie88:

Life is too short for me to find this info out but if you could find out averages over the last two years I believe that would be a fairer comparison. Averages can be and normally are incredibly misleading. I am now going back to cutting the back grass with some nail scissors as I feel that would be time better spent than wotking that out

Your wish is my command! - I'm retired so have a bit of time to check the facts and don't have to resort to snide comments about drivers/teams or wild assumptions

2007

Kimi    6.47,   Lewis/Fernando  6.41,   Philipe    5.53,   Nick    3.65,   Robert  2.50 (only 16 races, not 17)

2008

Lewis     5.53,   Philippe   5.12,   Robert   4.41,   KImi   4.06,   Nick  3.53,   Fernando   3.12

The point is that at this stage of his career, Lewis is matching/beating established drivers with more experience than him. 

As for the claim that the other drivers drove uncompetative cars so wouldn't have such good averages, why were they in poorer cars? Simply because at this stage of their careers they didn't show the same amount of talent, although with experience thay have now reached the top. (Didn't Sauber drop Philipe after his first season in F1 and leave him out for a year before re-instating him?)

I'm not saying that LH is the best ever but he does show a lot of potential for even better  performances in the future

 

    

Because there are only 4 top cars in a normal season and several new guys were coming into the sport at the same time!

Much as I think Lewis shows enormous potential you still cannot make a comparison with Alonso at that stage of his career.  He was in a Minardi and showed huge potential in a car that had no chance of winning races or even getting points most of the time.

I'm pretty sure Lewis would have too, but we will never know.  I am not saying any of them were better or worse.

As for Phillipe at Sauber, he showed imense speed but was a bit erratic to say the least and was probably dropped because Sauber couldn't afford the repair bills.

Lewis Hamilton will not become the new Senna or Schumacher.  He will be Lewis Hamilton and he may go on to beat the records of  previous drivers.  Even the supposedly arrogant (in other peoples eyes, not mine) Michael Schumacher said that his surpassing the achievements of Fangio, Clark, etc could not be compared because the dangers and conditions those drivers faced were completely different.

glitsy:

Personally I think this overpaid arrogant little boy racer should be thrown out of formula one before somebody gets killed by his totally reckless behaviour behind the wheel.

Ihave followed F1 for more years than I care to remember and to hear Lewis Hamiltons name compared to the likes of Ayrton Senna & Michael Shumacher is ludicrous in the extreme I would not trust him with a Reliant Robin.

My point was proved earlier this year when he crashed into the back of a Ferarri showing the world he didnt know a red light means STOP.

I personally look forward to a day without Lewis Hamilton trying to drive a gloryfied German taxi around the worlds race circuits.

Please MASSA beat this child on Sunday and shut this cocky arrogant bighead up  once & for all

I agree!!!

Lets give them all mobility scooters so that they can go back to following each other around the track at 8 mph so that no one gets hurt!!!  They wouldn't even need to risk killing their pit crew with a trailing fuel hose either, because they would only need to change batteries!!!!

And they wouldn't need to nearly ram another car in the pitlane on more than one occasion!!!!

There shouldn't be any need for the Ferrari International Assistance to intervene either!!!