Am I the only person in the world that thought that Holly Steel completely faked the tears in the semi final. She came accross as a real spoilt stage school brat and it was so obvious that the people would fall for it and vote for her because they felt sorry for her and thought she was so brave. I for one did not fall for it. Neither did my 7 year old daughter, she said to me " I can fake cry better than that".

I thought she was faking too.  She would have probably got a lot less votes if she did not go wrong.  The problem is you now have these busybodies with nothing else to do but claim she was "under pressure" becuase she is acting the same way an adult would if they were under pressure.

The fact is that children cry about things adults would just accept.  I have worked on a few TV shows and from what I have found programmes where children are on game shows some of them get up set when they lose but they would only be crying because they were up set about not winning not because they felt under pressure.  More children are underpressure doing home work.  When I was at school they over loaded us with homework because the children who didn't do the home work's parents said that their children dont get enough home work as their children said they have got no home work.  I used to be up until 2am on school nights doing homework because we had so much and I only had 4 hours sleep.  Thinking about it now I dont see why I didn't just not do it, it is not like it was anything to do with the work we were doing

Why would she do that, she would have better chance to win without any incidents. And about 7 year old daughter, I don't think it's the same thing to 'fake cry' at home and in front of the millions of people watching at you.

Doubble M:

I thought she was faking too.  She would have probably got a lot less votes if she did not go wrong.  The problem is you now have these busybodies with nothing else to do but claim she was "under pressure" becuase she is acting the same way an adult would if they were under pressure.

The fact is that children cry about things adults would just accept.  I have worked on a few TV shows and from what I have found programmes where children are on game shows some of them get up set when they lose but they would only be crying because they were up set about not winning not because they felt under pressure.  More children are underpressure doing home work.  When I was at school they over loaded us with homework because the children who didn't do the home work's parents said that their children dont get enough home work as their children said they have got no home work.  I used to be up until 2am on school nights doing homework because we had so much and I only had 4 hours sleep.  Thinking about it now I dont see why I didn't just not do it, it is not like it was anything to do with the work we were doing

 

Ye Right - she is really going to fake crying and totally ruin her performance and blow any chance of possibly winning in order to get more votes - ye that makes perfect sense

There were always going to be people that would vote for her simply because she was a cute 10 year old - And she would of got about the same number of votes whatever happened  - If she done a perfect performance then those that gave her a sympathy vote would of voted for her perfect performance - but because she broke down those that might of voted for her performance gave her a sympathy vote instead - she certainly did Not get more votes because she broke down and cried

There are a lot of people that vote using their heart for the cutest or the youngest act or the act with the most heart warming story - but holly was never going to win because MOST people vote using their head and voted for the act with the most talent

Those busybodies you refer to do at least have a firm grasp on reaity

There are a minority of kids that cant be bothered with their homework and tell their parents that they dont have any homework - But very few of those parents would tell the school that their kids dont get enough homework - - - And even if Any of the parents did tell the school their kids dont get enough homework - First the school would tell the parent that the kid Did in fact have homework but had not done it - Second the school would certainly Not give all the kids more homework because of a small minority of parents that said their kids dont get enough homework - - - Any responsible parent would complain to the school if their kid had enough homework to keep them up til 2am - And no responsible parent would allow their kid to stay up til 2am on school nights, not even to do homework - - - Almost All homework is in some way related to and conneted to work done in school

colin from guildford:

Ye Right - she is really going to fake crying and totally ruin her performance and blow any chance of possibly winning in order to get more votes - ye that makes perfect sense

There were always going to be people that would vote for her simply because she was a cute 10 year old - And she would of got about the same number of votes whatever happened  - If she done a perfect performance then those that gave her a sympathy vote would of voted for her perfect performance - but because she broke down those that might of voted for her performance gave her a sympathy vote instead - she certainly did Not get more votes because she broke down and cried

There are a lot of people that vote using their heart for the cutest or the youngest act or the act with the most heart warming story - but holly was never going to win because MOST people vote using their head and voted for the act with the most talent

Those busybodies you refer to do at least have a firm grasp on reaity

There are a minority of kids that cant be bothered with their homework and tell their parents that they dont have any homework - But very few of those parents would tell the school that their kids dont get enough homework - - - And even if Any of the parents did tell the school their kids dont get enough homework - First the school would tell the parent that the kid Did in fact have homework but had not done it - Second the school would certainly Not give all the kids more homework because of a small minority of parents that said their kids dont get enough homework - - - Any responsible parent would complain to the school if their kid had enough homework to keep them up til 2am - And no responsible parent would allow their kid to stay up til 2am on school nights, not even to do homework - - - Almost All homework is in some way related to and conneted to work done in school

She didn't actully break down, if she broke down she wouldn't have asked to sing again.  She went wrong in the song so she started to cry, an adult would have just picked their self up again on the next line but she is a child so she cried like a lot of children would have.

 

Those busy bodies dont have a grasp on reality, they just like to moan.  There were a lot of busy bodies (probably the same people) who don't like junk food companies making money so they made ofcom ban adverts for junk food during childrens programmes dispite the fact that not only were the adverts never mentioned food and only the toy but also children dont buy junk food, it is the parents who buy it for them.  Then they make the case that they buy it because their children always go on non stop about it which would suggest that if their children went on non stop about wanting drugs and alchol their parents would buy it.  After the ban is put in place they then complain that there are new happy meals are being advertised to children when these adverts comply with the ban as they are advertising fruit bags and carrot sticks as well as the toy.

 

The problem with parents who tell the school that their children dont get enough home work is that they are obsessed with complaining so the school give more home work to shut up the parent who keeps complaining because it is easier in the long term as they would only start a group of parents who demand more home work and complain to ofstead who will tell the school they have to issue more home work.  Also the school would probably not want to say to the parents that their child did actully have home work as some parents would be offended.  The teachers knew that the home work was not being done as they always had hour detentions after school full of pupils doing their homework.

My parents did compain but there were more parents saying that there was not enough home work and although my parents would have been able to fund a large campaign it is more the amount of people in the group is more important than the amount of money the leaders of the group has and bribing was not really an option.  In the parent teacher confrences where the school board answered questions from parents there were a larger amount of parents who said their children dont get enough home work than those who said they get too much, although they never asked people if they thought the amount of home work was ok.  After a few months my head of year said I was alowed to give some home work later than other people as long as I didn't tell the other students.  In the school I was in they gave home work because a large amount of parents complained so it was mainly work in the text books we were given

I am really sorry and with the greatest of respect there is so much total rubbish there it hardly justifys a response

Like:

"The problem with parents who tell the school that their children dont get enough home work is that they are obsessed with complaining so the school give more home work to shut up the parent who keeps complaining" - - A school would never give all the kids more homework because of one or two parents who want their kids to have more

"My parents did compain but there were more parents saying that there was not enough home work" - - Not in a million years would the number of parents wanting More homework be higher than those that want less or are simply happy with the way things are

And as for this: - - "In the school I was in they gave home work because a large amount of parents complained so it was mainly work in the text books we were given" - - - This Completely contradicts your pervious statement - - - "it is not like it was anything to do with the work we were doing"

 

It is really irritating when people post complete rubbish and even more so when they contradict themselves

colin from guildford:

I am really sorry and with the greatest of respect there is so much total rubbish there it hardly justifys a response

Like:

"The problem with parents who tell the school that their children dont get enough home work is that they are obsessed with complaining so the school give more home work to shut up the parent who keeps complaining" - - A school would never give all the kids more homework because of one or two parents who want their kids to have more

"My parents did compain but there were more parents saying that there was not enough home work" - - Not in a million years would the number of parents wanting More homework be higher than those that want less or are simply happy with the way things are

And as for this: - - "In the school I was in they gave home work because a large amount of parents complained so it was mainly work in the text books we were given" - - - This Completely contradicts your pervious statement - - - "it is not like it was anything to do with the work we were doing"

 

It is really irritating when people post complete rubbish and even more so when they contradict themselves

How would you know what it was like at my school?

Who said one or two parents complained? there was over 1500 pupils in the school, there were tens of parents who were complaining and they were not stop going on about it.

In my opinion there were a high amount of parents saying their children were not getting enough homework was because they only gave them the option of a high amount or a low amount not an average amount so people who thought it was an average amount voted a low amount.  If they were given the option of the amount of homework being average the average vote would have won

Personally I would not be suprised that they over loaded us with homework because of the orignal busy body who started the complaining so every one would complain to the busy body instead, which her children were blamed by a lot of the pupils because of the large amount of them having detention for not doing their work and then she complained about bullying.  At the last year I was there they added an extra 30 minute lesson (20 minutes added to the end of the day and 10 minutes from the 55 minute, later the 45 minute lunch break) to lower the amount of people having detention and doing the home work in class and then the busy body complained that her children were coming home when it was too dark in the winter.  The problem is you cant win with these kinds of people.

Have you read the text books? they are not all the same part of the subject.  The home work would usually be about different things but I would admit that some of it was relevant only because we did it earlier that day in class.

she messed up...she cried....she got to go again wot a little brat

It makes me wonder just how perceptive you parents are that are calling Holly a spoilt brat.

You don't need a Phd in psychology to see that the child was GENUINELY upset - most mothers would perceive that.  Don't you know the difference between a child in fear and a child just wanting attention and throwing their dummy out?

Sure your child can cry at will at home but you would have to be very scared and anxious indeed to do it in front of millions of people and thousands in an audience all watching you.  Few children would choose to break down in that situation.

The little girl was under pressure and ITV and her parents should not have gambled that she would be ok the second time around.  Although she was ok it really could have gone badly and that would have damaged her psychologically about going on stage again, and no-one at ITV could have predicted 100% what would happen.

susanna foxtrot:

It makes me wonder just how perceptive you parents are that are calling Holly a spoilt brat.

You don't need a Phd in psychology to see that the child was GENUINELY upset - most mothers would perceive that.  Don't you know the difference between a child in fear and a child just wanting attention and throwing their dummy out?

Sure your child can cry at will at home but you would have to be very scared and anxious indeed to do it in front of millions of people and thousands in an audience all watching you.  Few children would choose to break down in that situation.

The little girl was under pressure and ITV and her parents should not have gambled that she would be ok the second time around.  Although she was ok it really could have gone badly and that would have damaged her psychologically about going on stage again, and no-one at ITV could have predicted 100% what would happen.

If she was up set it was because she went wrong in the song.

She probably has no idea of how many people millions of people is, most people would not and the fact that it is shown to hundruds of millions of people worldwide in other countries too would not cross many people's minds.  From what I am aware the studio (or studios, as it can be split in to 2) which Britain's got tallent uses has a maximum capacity of about 600 people depending on the size of the set and layout so there were not thousands of people in the studio.

As I mentioned before the programme is shown in other countries too.  ITV is only one of the channels it is shown on and they would not have as much say as a channel in another country which pays more to show the programme because they cover a larger area and therefore have more viewers and larger budgets.

There are advantages of her appearing on Britian's got tallent, now she would more likely to be approached by a record company and get a recording contract as she has proved she has fans where as if she went to a record company not appearing on BGT they would probably not take her on as they don't know if people would like her.  I am not aware of any child actor or child gameshow contestant who has found appearing on TV/films a bad experiance, if anything it is something they can look back on and be proud that they were a part of something and had the chance to do something only a limited amount of children have been alowed to do.  Personally I would not be surprised if some of the people who complain are actully jelous deep down as she has given her career as a singer a huge leg up in to the entertainment industry, the same way Charlotte Church got when she was found through This Morning.