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Some of my best friends are
Last post 07-08-2009, 2:04 PM by asanator. 26 replies.
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07-06-2009, 7:28 PM |
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jestaudio
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Some of my best friends are
Jews. Does'nt even come close to a excuse.Its the usual defense of a igmoranus. If BE's friends were Jewish then he would have realised how offensive his comments are, not only to the Jewish community but also to the Germans that have tried to make amends for Hitlers attrocities and refrained from polluting the news with such arrant rubbish.
What land is BE living in, cukoo land i suspect. Nothing more than a full and public apology would be acceptable in my opinion.
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07-06-2009, 9:23 PM |
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Agreed! What sickens me the most is that I think he is nastily clever enough to realise how upsetting his comments are and is using it yet again as a publicity-grabbing stunt. I'm not fooled any longer by the crazy but harmless BE routine.
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07-06-2009, 9:25 PM |
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Re: Some of my best friends are
Was his statement not true ? Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
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07-06-2009, 10:03 PM |
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jestaudio
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Re: Some of my best friends are
Panzer:
Was his statement not true ?
Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
Read your history on Hitlers methods on getting things done, talk to survivors and the decendents of those who survived the prison and death camps then come back and tell me its only a tad insensitive. While you tell me i'll show you a picture of a grandfather i never met becuase of Hitlers death camps
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07-06-2009, 10:39 PM |
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pedekay
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Re: Some of my best friends are
Panzer:
Was his statement not true ?
Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
There were many victims of WW2, of course. But, Jewish people were not victims of WW2.
They were victims of a system which made it legal to kill people simply because of their birth family and religion - things that the people had absolutely no control over. And the whole murderous system was all set up legally and efficiently, to kill as many as possible. Imagine if the British government passed a law saying that all people born with the blood group AB were undesirable and would be gassed, then used health records to find these people and the army to take them away, and anyone who protested was killed. That's what it was like.
Hitler was extremely powerful and he got things done, boy, did he get things done. His actions show the extreme danger of having a dictator who is powerful and get things done. As long as you agree with him, it's all absolutely fine, but if one day you don't agree, then too bad, just keep your head down and your mouth shut, or you'll be killed too.
Incidentally, Panzer was the name of a German tank in WW2.
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07-06-2009, 10:52 PM |
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pedekay
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Re: Some of my best friends are
jestaudio:
Read your history on Hitlers methods on getting things done, talk to survivors and the decendents of those who survived the prison and death camps then come back and tell me its only a tad insensitive. While you tell me i'll show you a picture of a grandfather i never met becuase of Hitlers death camps
Clearly this is all very personal for you, jestaudio. I am very sorry, it must be hard for you and your family to read the sort of rubbish spouted by idiots like Bernie.
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07-06-2009, 11:11 PM |
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Panzer
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pedekay: Panzer:
Was his statement not true ?
Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
There were many victims of WW2, of course. But, Jewish people were not victims of WW2.
They were victims of a system which made it legal to kill people simply because of their birth family and religion - things that the people had absolutely no control over. And the whole murderous system was all set up legally and efficiently, to kill as many as possible. Imagine if the British government passed a law saying that all people born with the blood group AB were undesirable and would be gassed, then used health records to find these people and the army to take them away, and anyone who protested was killed. That's what it was like.
Hitler was extremely powerful and he got things done, boy, did he get things done. His actions show the extreme danger of having a dictator who is powerful and get things done. As long as you agree with him, it's all absolutely fine, but if one day you don't agree, then too bad, just keep your head down and your mouth shut, or you'll be killed too.
Incidentally, Panzer was the name of a German tank in WW2.
Seriously ?
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07-06-2009, 11:25 PM |
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coops3
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Re: Some of my best friends are
jestaudio:Jews. Does'nt even come close to a excuse.Its the usual defense of a igmoranus. If BE's friends were Jewish then he would have realised how offensive his comments are, not only to the Jewish community but also to the Germans that have tried to make amends for Hitlers attrocities and refrained from polluting the news with such arrant rubbish. What land is BE living in, cukoo land i suspect. Nothing more than a full and public apology would be acceptable in my opinion.
I'm with you 100%. What a complete moron.
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07-07-2009, 7:20 AM |
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jestaudio
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Re: Some of my best friends are
pedekay:
jestaudio:
Read your history on Hitlers methods on getting things done, talk to survivors and the decendents of those who survived the prison and death camps then come back and tell me its only a tad insensitive. While you tell me i'll show you a picture of a grandfather i never met becuase of Hitlers death camps
Clearly this is all very personal for you, jestaudio. I am very sorry, it must be hard for you and your family to read the sort of rubbish spouted by idiots like Bernie.
Cheers mate, yes it is personal for me, i hate idiots like that spouting of on a subject they have no knoledge on. I would hope any right minded person found it offensive not just those off us that had thier lives shaped by Hitlers attrocities
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07-07-2009, 12:17 PM |
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justrace
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Re: Some of my best friends are
Panzer: pedekay: Panzer:
Was his statement not true ?
Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
There were many victims of WW2, of course. But, Jewish people were not victims of WW2.
They were victims of a system which made it legal to kill people simply because of their birth family and religion - things that the people had absolutely no control over. And the whole murderous system was all set up legally and efficiently, to kill as many as possible. Imagine if the British government passed a law saying that all people born with the blood group AB were undesirable and would be gassed, then used health records to find these people and the army to take them away, and anyone who protested was killed. That's what it was like.
Hitler was extremely powerful and he got things done, boy, did he get things done. His actions show the extreme danger of having a dictator who is powerful and get things done. As long as you agree with him, it's all absolutely fine, but if one day you don't agree, then too bad, just keep your head down and your mouth shut, or you'll be killed too.
Incidentally, Panzer was the name of a German tank in WW2.
Seriously ?
Not quite. Panzer is the german word for tank.
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07-07-2009, 12:48 PM |
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Panzer
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justrace: Panzer: pedekay: Panzer:
Was his statement not true ?
Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
There were many victims of WW2, of course. But, Jewish people were not victims of WW2.
They were victims of a system which made it legal to kill people simply because of their birth family and religion - things that the people had absolutely no control over. And the whole murderous system was all set up legally and efficiently, to kill as many as possible. Imagine if the British government passed a law saying that all people born with the blood group AB were undesirable and would be gassed, then used health records to find these people and the army to take them away, and anyone who protested was killed. That's what it was like.
Hitler was extremely powerful and he got things done, boy, did he get things done. His actions show the extreme danger of having a dictator who is powerful and get things done. As long as you agree with him, it's all absolutely fine, but if one day you don't agree, then too bad, just keep your head down and your mouth shut, or you'll be killed too.
Incidentally, Panzer was the name of a German tank in WW2.
Seriously ?
Not quite. Panzer is the german word for tank.
Correct, WW2 is a great interest of mine as well as Motorsport and often use variations of Panzer as a username.
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07-07-2009, 1:49 PM |
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asanator
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Re: Some of my best friends are
Seriously? Some of you are actually offended by what BE said!
To clarify, BE was talking about the things that Hitler did before WW2, he said in the interview that he was referring to the period before AH went off and got all 'crazy'. Hitler did get a lot done in his early years, he took germany from a minor world power after WW1 to one of the greateset industrial forces in the world. Yes his efforts were misdirected but the truth of the matter is that he got things done.
Bernie wasn't condoning what Hitler did just stating the obvious. Get over your self indignant selves!
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07-07-2009, 2:40 PM |
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Re: Some of my best friends are
Panzer:Was his statement not true ? Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
No BE's statement was not true . Yes when asked about dictators BE naturaly mentioned Hitler as most would . But he actualy tryed to defend some of the man's actions suggesting that Herr Hitler was possibly persuaded by someone else to commit the attrocities that occured during the Nazi regime There is no proof that Hitler was coerced into his actions by others . The proof sugests that Hitler was fully behind the actions of the SS . His election campaign was built around anti semitism . During his incarceration before the Nazi's seized power he wrote a book in which he blames the Jews for almost all of Germany's problems . Even going so far as to say they lost the first world war as a direct result of unloyal German Jews . A man in BE's possition should not be trying to suggest that one of the most ruthless dictators in modern history was led down the wrong path by others . As people have already mentioned he was a very ruthless leader but also happily for us very stubborn so stubborn that his unwillingness to listen to other peoples suggestions probably lost him the war . I find it hard to believe that Hitler could have been persuaded by others to do something that he didn't already want to do.
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07-07-2009, 2:58 PM |
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pedekay
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justrace: Panzer: pedekay: Panzer:
Was his statement not true ?
Probably a tad insensitive but Jewish people don't hold the monopoly on being the victims of WW2 and BE is a good example of what he's talking about, he's a little more powerful than the rest of us and gets things done.
All the people getting upset about the politics in F1 whilst not ideal is a an interesting sideshow to the racing which is a bit of a non event at the moment.
There were many victims of WW2, of course. But, Jewish people were not victims of WW2.
They were victims of a system which made it legal to kill people simply because of their birth family and religion - things that the people had absolutely no control over. And the whole murderous system was all set up legally and efficiently, to kill as many as possible. Imagine if the British government passed a law saying that all people born with the blood group AB were undesirable and would be gassed, then used health records to find these people and the army to take them away, and anyone who protested was killed. That's what it was like.
Hitler was extremely powerful and he got things done, boy, did he get things done. His actions show the extreme danger of having a dictator who is powerful and get things done. As long as you agree with him, it's all absolutely fine, but if one day you don't agree, then too bad, just keep your head down and your mouth shut, or you'll be killed too.
Incidentally, Panzer was the name of a German tank in WW2.
Seriously ?
Not quite. Panzer is the german word for tank.
I didn't know that, sorry, my mistake.
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07-07-2009, 5:26 PM |
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KIMBO1
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Re: Some of my best friends are
pedekay:
jestaudio:
Read your history on Hitlers methods on getting things done, talk to survivors and the decendents of those who survived the prison and death camps then come back and tell me its only a tad insensitive. While you tell me i'll show you a picture of a grandfather i never met becuase of Hitlers death camps
Clearly this is all very personal for you, jestaudio. I am very sorry, it must be hard for you and your family to read the sort of rubbish spouted by idiots like Bernie.
I quite agree, there is no excuse for what Bernie has said I put it down to ignorance and thoughtlessness
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