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Jenson Button thread
Last post 11-06-2009, 5:08 PM by jack 67. 8 replies.
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11-05-2009, 7:19 PM |
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I found it highly inappropiate that Jenson Button is now I new and current WDC whether we like it or not, and there isnt a single thread on him, it is distrubing and somewhat disturbing, brings new meaning to the silly season. Now, can I ask for fellow posters to share some views on the newly crowned WDC holder? Whether it be positive or negative, regards to his new awaiting Brawn contract, or the possiblities of him (go on Jense) joining McLaren and Brawn getting upset with teams trying to poach him. Something! Anyway, my thoughts on Jenson are that he is far from a humble winner, on the otherside I would like to see him at McLaren and to secure the rest of his future career with the team, McLaren stuck with heikki for 2 years, I can see it being possible Jenson has at last 10 if you go by that. Yes, it will be highly difficult for Jenson to step in McLaren, leave all that he has got with Brawn and find his way with the team, knowing that Lewis is leading it and knows everyone well. Still, I believe McLaren will always give equal machinary, if Jenson remains as cool as he did this season, he could very well do well at McLaren.
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11-05-2009, 8:22 PM |
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aveli666
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anametoremember:I found it highly inappropiate that Jenson Button is now I new and current WDC whether we like it or not, and there isnt a single thread on him, it is distrubing and somewhat disturbing, brings new meaning to the silly season. Now, can I ask for fellow posters to share some views on the newly crowned WDC holder? Whether it be positive or negative, regards to his new awaiting Brawn contract, or the possiblities of him (go on Jense) joining McLaren and Brawn getting upset with teams trying to poach him. Something! Anyway, my thoughts on Jenson are that he is far from a humble winner, on the otherside I would like to see him at McLaren and to secure the rest of his future career with the team, McLaren stuck with heikki for 2 years, I can see it being possible Jenson has at last 10 if you go by that. Yes, it will be highly difficult for Jenson to step in McLaren, leave all that he has got with Brawn and find his way with the team, knowing that Lewis is leading it and knows everyone well. Still, I believe McLaren will always give equal machinary, if Jenson remains as cool as he did this season, he could very well do well at McLaren.
you're right button does deserve to be celebrated as our new f1 champ. i saw this earlier and thought it shed a litle more light on button's personality. i think his best drive was in brazil when he faught his way through the field to claim the crown. http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/11/10195.html
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11-05-2009, 9:58 PM |
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aveli666: anametoremember:
I found it highly inappropiate that Jenson Button is now I new and current WDC whether we like it or not, and there isnt a single thread on him, it is distrubing and somewhat disturbing, brings new meaning to the silly season.
Now, can I ask for fellow posters to share some views on the newly crowned WDC holder? Whether it be positive or negative, regards to his new awaiting Brawn contract, or the possiblities of him (go on Jense) joining McLaren and Brawn getting upset with teams trying to poach him.
Something!
Anyway, my thoughts on Jenson are that he is far from a humble winner, on the otherside I would like to see him at McLaren and to secure the rest of his future career with the team, McLaren stuck with heikki for 2 years, I can see it being possible Jenson has at last 10 if you go by that.
Yes, it will be highly difficult for Jenson to step in McLaren, leave all that he has got with Brawn and find his way with the team, knowing that Lewis is leading it and knows everyone well. Still, I believe McLaren will always give equal machinary, if Jenson remains as cool as he did this season, he could very well do well at McLaren.
you're right button does deserve to be celebrated as our new f1 champ. i saw this earlier and thought it shed a litle more light on button's personality. i think his best drive was in brazil when he faught his way through the field to claim the crown.
http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/11/10195.html
Jenson Button is as fine a driver in F1 as we have but the lingering question is, is he really top tier? How would he have matched up against the establishments renowned aces? Would he have won the WDC if they all had the same double diffuser BRAWN BGP 001 from Australia? and if your answer is no or i am not sure then it just emphasis why most here are still lukewarm on his achievement and why the jury is still out. I am in no way trying to denegrate his accomplishment but the question arises did they BRAWN BGP 001 have such an advantage from the onset that this season was really never a true racing season.
On a slightly different note i will go on record and say that were McLaren one of the three original double diffuser teams and Ferrari and 2/3 of the grid were challanging the validity of the diffuser that the FIA without hesitation would have deemed it illegal in Paris and in addition made their ruling retroactive to the first race.
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11-06-2009, 9:52 AM |
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aveli666
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kingofthelatebrakers: aveli666: anametoremember: I found it highly inappropiate that Jenson Button is now I new and current WDC whether we like it or not, and there isnt a single thread on him, it is distrubing and somewhat disturbing, brings new meaning to the silly season. Now, can I ask for fellow posters to share some views on the newly crowned WDC holder? Whether it be positive or negative, regards to his new awaiting Brawn contract, or the possiblities of him (go on Jense) joining McLaren and Brawn getting upset with teams trying to poach him. Something! Anyway, my thoughts on Jenson are that he is far from a humble winner, on the otherside I would like to see him at McLaren and to secure the rest of his future career with the team, McLaren stuck with heikki for 2 years, I can see it being possible Jenson has at last 10 if you go by that. Yes, it will be highly difficult for Jenson to step in McLaren, leave all that he has got with Brawn and find his way with the team, knowing that Lewis is leading it and knows everyone well. Still, I believe McLaren will always give equal machinary, if Jenson remains as cool as he did this season, he could very well do well at McLaren.
you're right button does deserve to be celebrated as our new f1 champ. i saw this earlier and thought it shed a litle more light on button's personality. i think his best drive was in brazil when he faught his way through the field to claim the crown. http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/11/10195.html
Jenson Button is as fine a driver in F1 as we have but the lingering question is, is he really top tier? How would he have matched up against the establishments renowned aces? Would he have won the WDC if they all had the same double diffuser BRAWN BGP 001 from Australia? and if your answer is no or i am not sure then it just emphasis why most here are still lukewarm on his achievement and why the jury is still out. I am in no way trying to denegrate his accomplishment but the question arises did they BRAWN BGP 001 have such an advantage from the onset that this season was really never a true racing season. On a slightly different note i will go on record and say that were McLaren one of the three original double diffuser teams and Ferrari and 2/3 of the grid were challanging the validity of the diffuser that the FIA without hesitation would have deemed it illegal in Paris and in addition made their ruling retroactive to the first race.
in my book, button is a top teir driver for these reasons: he didn't have an illegal component on his car throughout the season. he didn't crash into other drivers to win the title. he didn't park his car in stretegic positions to prevent others from competing with him fairly. he and his team didn't cheat in any way. his teammate wasn't ordered to drive for him. his teammate had the same chance. he went out there and drove for each and everyone of those points. you can if as often and for as long as you want, come 14th march, that illusive number 1 will be worn on his car not only because he won the title fair and square but he has always been a top teir driver from the first day he drove an f1 car. i couldn't beleive how good he was on his very first race because there was so much hype about him before the season started and to top it he was incredibly mature on his first interview. schumacher was looking at him up and down in the parc ferme at spa and i thought schumacher felt threatened. 2004 he finished 10 times on the podium to finish 3. button had the chance and he took it with both hands without looking around to see if there was a better chance or anyone else had an eye on the chance. he may not be agressive but he is a top driver. for those reasons he is a top notch driver.
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11-06-2009, 1:16 PM |
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champalonso
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That is funny that there hasn't been much celebration of Button isn't it? Before this season I didn't know what to think of him as a driver, always thought he was a bit boring and blamed the car for everything. Although it's clear he is very good - great drive at Brazil - he really did have such a big advantage over everyone else in the first part of the season, that surely most of the credit (not all)should go to Ross Brawn and the team as a whole rather than Jenson himself. He's shown he can win given the best car, get points when he is challenged by others in equally good cars and handle the pressure when challenged for the title, but for me there is just something missing. I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it comes down to personality - he seems nice enough, more bigheaded than in the past though and always sounds like he's got a cold - maybe he just hasn't got the kind of charisma that we expect from a racer? I know these things shouldn't matter but it's a fact that people support or are interested in particular sportspeople not just for their skills but for how they come across.
Should he stay at Brawn or go to McLaren? Not sure, but I think at Brawn the team is built around him and he needs that, whereas he would find himself number 2 at team Hamilton and at a disadvantage to LH who knows everything about the team. Then again who knows, maybe unlike Heikki he could handle it and win races. Whatever he does I think his motivation should be getting a winning car, not based on financial demands.
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11-06-2009, 1:37 PM |
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anametoremember:I found it highly inappropiate that Jenson Button is now I new and current WDC whether we like it or not, and there isnt a single thread on him, it is distrubing and somewhat disturbing, brings new meaning to the silly season. Now, can I ask for fellow posters to share some views on the newly crowned WDC holder? Whether it be positive or negative, regards to his new awaiting Brawn contract, or the possiblities of him (go on Jense) joining McLaren and Brawn getting upset with teams trying to poach him. Something! Anyway, my thoughts on Jenson are that he is far from a humble winner, on the otherside I would like to see him at McLaren and to secure the rest of his future career with the team, McLaren stuck with heikki for 2 years, I can see it being possible Jenson has at last 10 if you go by that. Yes, it will be highly difficult for Jenson to step in McLaren, leave all that he has got with Brawn and find his way with the team, knowing that Lewis is leading it and knows everyone well. Still, I believe McLaren will always give equal machinary, if Jenson remains as cool as he did this season, he could very well do well at McLaren.
I don't think that Jenson is very media friendly which is why there has been less of an 'evnt' around his WDC. He's ok with the press but he's just a bit dull! I don't think there's much going on 'up there' apart from motoracing and model girlfriends. as much as he's been on the telly all year I can't say I know anything about him or that he even has a personality let alone what that is! I also think that the country is in the midst of a terrible depression and most people arnt interested in an expensive sport which takes place far away involving cars that loo like aeroplanes governed by fetishistic nazi perverts and gray haired old dwarfs .. most people are worried about how theyre going to pay the mortgage next week not whether Jense's new girlfriend is hot or not. The boy done good, he's always had the talent and he had the car to show that off for the larger part of the season so well done but unless he's going to let us through the front door and show what he's really like then enoughs enough, lets get to next season and see the evil 'count alonso' taking on the 'angelical english knight - sir whine alot' ably challenged by another young 'german ace' and get some umph back to proceedings.
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11-06-2009, 4:12 PM |
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aveli666
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i think some people have forgotten how well celebrated button has been in the past. he was the most popular f1 driver in britain apart from the great schumacher until hamilton came along. button has been heavily celebrated in the past although he didn't win the title and now that he has won it, not much fuss is made about it because he has been around for 10 seasons. kobayashi caused such a stir because he is new to the sport, if glock (mind you is fluent in defending) had those interactions with button, nothing would've been made of it so novelty plays a bug roll in how people react to a person. hamilton only created such a stir for the same reasons. when hamilton wins the title next season i don't think there will be much said about it because it is expected. isn't it true that the funniest jokes are the one which take you most by surprise? well button didn't take us all by surpridse hence few are up making noice about his win. all that said, button will win the title again if he gets a competitive car to outrun the field with. he is a decent guy with bags of charisma which is evident in the number of magazines which have featured him in the past from gq to autosport. i remember autosport saying that he had the beckham appeal but i think he can be more appealing than beckham in many ways. he is a lot smarter than people give him credit for and this will all be revealed throughout 2010 season because he will be interviewed more often than he has ever been.
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11-06-2009, 5:08 PM |
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jack 67
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aveli666: kingofthelatebrakers: aveli666: anametoremember:
I found it highly inappropiate that Jenson Button is now I new and current WDC whether we like it or not, and there isnt a single thread on him, it is distrubing and somewhat disturbing, brings new meaning to the silly season.
Now, can I ask for fellow posters to share some views on the newly crowned WDC holder? Whether it be positive or negative, regards to his new awaiting Brawn contract, or the possiblities of him (go on Jense) joining McLaren and Brawn getting upset with teams trying to poach him.
Something!
Anyway, my thoughts on Jenson are that he is far from a humble winner, on the otherside I would like to see him at McLaren and to secure the rest of his future career with the team, McLaren stuck with heikki for 2 years, I can see it being possible Jenson has at last 10 if you go by that.
Yes, it will be highly difficult for Jenson to step in McLaren, leave all that he has got with Brawn and find his way with the team, knowing that Lewis is leading it and knows everyone well. Still, I believe McLaren will always give equal machinary, if Jenson remains as cool as he did this season, he could very well do well at McLaren.
you're right button does deserve to be celebrated as our new f1 champ. i saw this earlier and thought it shed a litle more light on button's personality. i think his best drive was in brazil when he faught his way through the field to claim the crown.
http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/11/10195.html
Jenson Button is as fine a driver in F1 as we have but the lingering question is, is he really top tier? How would he have matched up against the establishments renowned aces? Would he have won the WDC if they all had the same double diffuser BRAWN BGP 001 from Australia? and if your answer is no or i am not sure then it just emphasis why most here are still lukewarm on his achievement and why the jury is still out. I am in no way trying to denegrate his accomplishment but the question arises did they BRAWN BGP 001 have such an advantage from the onset that this season was really never a true racing season.
On a slightly different note i will go on record and say that were McLaren one of the three original double diffuser teams and Ferrari and 2/3 of the grid were challanging the validity of the diffuser that the FIA without hesitation would have deemed it illegal in Paris and in addition made their ruling retroactive to the first race.
in my book, button is a top teir driver for these reasons:
he didn't have an illegal component on his car throughout the season.
he didn't crash into other drivers to win the title.
he didn't park his car in stretegic positions to prevent others from competing with him fairly.
he and his team didn't cheat in any way.
his teammate wasn't ordered to drive for him.
his teammate had the same chance.
he went out there and drove for each and everyone of those points.
you can if as often and for as long as you want, come 14th march, that illusive number 1 will be worn on his car not only because he won the title fair and square but he has always been a top teir driver from the first day he drove an f1 car. i couldn't beleive how good he was on his very first race because there was so much hype about him before the season started and to top it he was incredibly mature on his first interview. schumacher was looking at him up and down in the parc ferme at spa and i thought schumacher felt threatened. 2004 he finished 10 times on the podium to finish 3.
button had the chance and he took it with both hands without looking around to see if there was a better chance or anyone else had an eye on the chance. he may not be agressive but he is a top driver.
for those reasons he is a top notch driver.
Avelli YOU ARE RIGHT 
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