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Last post 11-22-2009, 9:07 PM by gpringsx. 12 replies.
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  •  11-20-2009, 12:27 PM 890446

    Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    And here is a reason why Richard Branson pulled out, they wanted too much , offer very little comprimise back and have dodgy work ethics.

    Now lets get this into prespective here, Jenson Button has been loyal to Honda/Brawn for 7 whole years. And true enough his loyalty paid off in the end, and he won his title, so kudos to him. But can you blame a man for napping up a McLaren seat when he has had to deal with the humiliation of his team dithering over a new contract?

    Maybe Brawn are just acting up here, and really they wanted rid of Button but do not want to fully show it, but I for one and for the life of me cannot understand Bawn's whinging over Jenson's no brainer departure. You see Ron Dennis on the lose in Abu Dhabi, you hear your WDC driver has been down to Woking and you still refuse to offer him a decent contract? It makes no sense, whatever Jenson wanted to be paid in Brawn, he would have made ten times that for the sponsors he would have pulled in for the teams pockets.

    It could be something dodgy is going on here, and Jenson is being used as a spy or a mole to bring down McLaren from the inside, who knows, who goodness damn knows, but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Brawn has enforced a no McLaren ban on Jenson for a year...even though he was out of a contract with themHmm

    Now all said and done, McLaren better keep an eye on Jenson he could very well be a moleIndifferent

  •  11-20-2009, 6:27 PM 890606 in reply to 890446

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    Fry and Brawn are being to bitter of this for jenson to be a spy for them, I have  alway commented my views about this situation on other sites.
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  •  11-20-2009, 7:21 PM 890614 in reply to 890446

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    anametoremember:

    And here is a reason why Richard Branson pulled out, they wanted too much , offer very little comprimise back and have dodgy work ethics.

    Now lets get this into prespective here, Jenson Button has been loyal to Honda/Brawn for 7 whole years. And true enough his loyalty paid off in the end, and he won his title, so kudos to him. But can you blame a man for napping up a McLaren seat when he has had to deal with the humiliation of his team dithering over a new contract?

    Maybe Brawn are just acting up here, and really they wanted rid of Button but do not want to fully show it, but I for one and for the life of me cannot understand Bawn's whinging over Jenson's no brainer departure. You see Ron Dennis on the lose in Abu Dhabi, you hear your WDC driver has been down to Woking and you still refuse to offer him a decent contract? It makes no sense, whatever Jenson wanted to be paid in Brawn, he would have made ten times that for the sponsors he would have pulled in for the teams pockets.

    It could be something dodgy is going on here, and Jenson is being used as a spy or a mole to bring down McLaren from the inside, who knows, who goodness damn knows, but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Brawn has enforced a no McLaren ban on Jenson for a year...even though he was out of a contract with themHmm

    Now all said and done, McLaren better keep an eye on Jenson he could very well be a moleIndifferent

    Go for it girl. This is conspiracy theory that almost matches the car swap.

    I do think you are forgetting that Big Ron is no mug. He would have surely figured out what Brawn was up to and paid Jens extra wad to turn on his former masters. I fully expect Button is now a double agent and feeding misinformation to the boys at Brackley. Next years silver arrow will not have a pointy front, but will sport a rubber suction cup.

  •  11-20-2009, 7:34 PM 890617 in reply to 890614

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    redfrog:
    anametoremember:

    And here is a reason why Richard Branson pulled out, they wanted too much , offer very little comprimise back and have dodgy work ethics.

    Now lets get this into prespective here, Jenson Button has been loyal to Honda/Brawn for 7 whole years. And true enough his loyalty paid off in the end, and he won his title, so kudos to him. But can you blame a man for napping up a McLaren seat when he has had to deal with the humiliation of his team dithering over a new contract?

    Maybe Brawn are just acting up here, and really they wanted rid of Button but do not want to fully show it, but I for one and for the life of me cannot understand Bawn's whinging over Jenson's no brainer departure. You see Ron Dennis on the lose in Abu Dhabi, you hear your WDC driver has been down to Woking and you still refuse to offer him a decent contract? It makes no sense, whatever Jenson wanted to be paid in Brawn, he would have made ten times that for the sponsors he would have pulled in for the teams pockets.

    It could be something dodgy is going on here, and Jenson is being used as a spy or a mole to bring down McLaren from the inside, who knows, who goodness damn knows, but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Brawn has enforced a no McLaren ban on Jenson for a year...even though he was out of a contract with themHmm

    Now all said and done, McLaren better keep an eye on Jenson he could very well be a moleIndifferent

    Go for it girl. This is conspiracy theory that almost matches the car swap.

    I do think you are forgetting that Big Ron is no mug. He would have surely figured out what Brawn was up to and paid Jens extra wad to turn on his former masters. I fully expect Button is now a double agent and feeding misinformation to the boys at Brackley. Next years silver arrow will not have a pointy front, but will sport a rubber suction cup.

    Welll that and Justrace's Mclaren will be brought down posts, what do you expect! I do suspect some major acting is going! We are just going to have to wait and see, but I know mcLaren cannot handle another Alonso.

    As for the car swapping thing, with Mercedes cosying up with Brawn and FIA planning McLaren's downfall, I do not think I was too far wrong! Car swap went on, just with techincal bits her and there added on, like a double diffuser and kers!

  •  11-20-2009, 9:34 PM 890661 in reply to 890446

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    anametoremember:

    And here is a reason why Richard Branson pulled out, they wanted too much , offer very little comprimise back and have dodgy work ethics.

    Now lets get this into prespective here, Jenson Button has been loyal to Honda/Brawn for 7 whole years. And true enough his loyalty paid off in the end, and he won his title, so kudos to him. But can you blame a man for napping up a McLaren seat when he has had to deal with the humiliation of his team dithering over a new contract?

    Maybe Brawn are just acting up here, and really they wanted rid of Button but do not want to fully show it, but I for one and for the life of me cannot understand Bawn's whinging over Jenson's no brainer departure. You see Ron Dennis on the lose in Abu Dhabi, you hear your WDC driver has been down to Woking and you still refuse to offer him a decent contract? It makes no sense, whatever Jenson wanted to be paid in Brawn, he would have made ten times that for the sponsors he would have pulled in for the teams pockets.

    It could be something dodgy is going on here, and Jenson is being used as a spy or a mole to bring down McLaren from the inside, who knows, who goodness damn knows, but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Brawn has enforced a no McLaren ban on Jenson for a year...even though he was out of a contract with themHmm

    Now all said and done, McLaren better keep an eye on Jenson he could very well be a moleIndifferent

    You may or may not be right, but your attitude is excellent... anything the FIA touches should be viewed with suspicion...

    Just look at all the football match fixing scandal... the FIA have no accountability, and most are greedy as hell...

    No way in hell would the dodo have won anything without the FIA diffuser campaign... to ensure Brawn stayed in F1... the FIA were facing a prospect of losing another team and a ton of sponsorship... convenient how that is not the case now....

  •  11-21-2009, 12:47 AM 890712 in reply to 890661

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

     

    You just dont stay loyal to a team for 7 years, win a title and then run to a team with the best driver on the grid, something is going on, and I am not trusting JB not one iota!

  •  11-21-2009, 3:54 AM 890723 in reply to 890446

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    anametoremember:

    And here is a reason why Richard Branson pulled out, they wanted too much , offer very little comprimise back and have dodgy work ethics.

    Now lets get this into prespective here, Jenson Button has been loyal to Honda/Brawn for 7 whole years. And true enough his loyalty paid off in the end, and he won his title, so kudos to him. But can you blame a man for napping up a McLaren seat when he has had to deal with the humiliation of his team dithering over a new contract?

    Maybe Brawn are just acting up here, and really they wanted rid of Button but do not want to fully show it, but I for one and for the life of me cannot understand Bawn's whinging over Jenson's no brainer departure. You see Ron Dennis on the lose in Abu Dhabi, you hear your WDC driver has been down to Woking and you still refuse to offer him a decent contract? It makes no sense, whatever Jenson wanted to be paid in Brawn, he would have made ten times that for the sponsors he would have pulled in for the teams pockets.

    It could be something dodgy is going on here, and Jenson is being used as a spy or a mole to bring down McLaren from the inside, who knows, who goodness damn knows, but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Brawn has enforced a no McLaren ban on Jenson for a year...even though he was out of a contract with themHmm

    Now all said and done, McLaren better keep an eye on Jenson he could very well be a moleIndifferent

    Good lord, there really is no end to your *cough* imaginitive theories is there.   Just for my amusement...how exactly would Jenson be bringing down Mclaren form the inside?  A quick sneak over to Lewis side of the garage to put a little sugar in his fuel? Firebombing Mclarens facilities after everyone else has gone home?  And what would there be in it for Jenson exactly in destroying his new team? 

    In addition, how in your opinion would Brawn enforce a no Mclaren ban on a driver that is out of contract? Kidnapp his Dad perhaps?   These theories of yours (car swap, mole etc.) are complete gibberish and are not even remotely based on reality or logic.

  •  11-21-2009, 10:16 AM 890753 in reply to 890446

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    anametoremember:

    And here is a reason why Richard Branson pulled out, they wanted too much , offer very little comprimise back and have dodgy work ethics.

    Now lets get this into prespective here, Jenson Button has been loyal to Honda/Brawn for 7 whole years. And true enough his loyalty paid off in the end, and he won his title, so kudos to him. But can you blame a man for napping up a McLaren seat when he has had to deal with the humiliation of his team dithering over a new contract?

    Maybe Brawn are just acting up here, and really they wanted rid of Button but do not want to fully show it, but I for one and for the life of me cannot understand Bawn's whinging over Jenson's no brainer departure. You see Ron Dennis on the lose in Abu Dhabi, you hear your WDC driver has been down to Woking and you still refuse to offer him a decent contract? It makes no sense, whatever Jenson wanted to be paid in Brawn, he would have made ten times that for the sponsors he would have pulled in for the teams pockets.

    It could be something dodgy is going on here, and Jenson is being used as a spy or a mole to bring down McLaren from the inside, who knows, who goodness damn knows, but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Brawn has enforced a no McLaren ban on Jenson for a year...even though he was out of a contract with themHmm

    Now all said and done, McLaren better keep an eye on Jenson he could very well be a moleIndifferent

    You decide friends and enemies quicker and more often than the wind changes lol.

  •  11-21-2009, 11:51 AM 890774 in reply to 890753

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    schumacher will return in 2010.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8371097.stm 

  •  11-22-2009, 5:26 AM 891020 in reply to 890446

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    anametoremember:

    And here is a reason why Richard Branson pulled out, they wanted too much , offer very little comprimise back and have dodgy work ethics.

    Now lets get this into prespective here, Jenson Button has been loyal to Honda/Brawn for 7 whole years. And true enough his loyalty paid off in the end, and he won his title, so kudos to him. But can you blame a man for napping up a McLaren seat when he has had to deal with the humiliation of his team dithering over a new contract?

    Maybe Brawn are just acting up here, and really they wanted rid of Button but do not want to fully show it, but I for one and for the life of me cannot understand Bawn's whinging over Jenson's no brainer departure. You see Ron Dennis on the lose in Abu Dhabi, you hear your WDC driver has been down to Woking and you still refuse to offer him a decent contract? It makes no sense, whatever Jenson wanted to be paid in Brawn, he would have made ten times that for the sponsors he would have pulled in for the teams pockets.

    It could be something dodgy is going on here, and Jenson is being used as a spy or a mole to bring down McLaren from the inside, who knows, who goodness damn knows, but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Brawn has enforced a no McLaren ban on Jenson for a year...even though he was out of a contract with themHmm

    Now all said and done, McLaren better keep an eye on Jenson he could very well be a moleIndifferent

    There is one other perfectly rational reason for the dodo to move to McLaren...

    The dodo geniunely believes his own hype... it's happened before with Kimi and Alonso, and it's not entirely surprising it's happening again...

    Drivers who end up achieving more then their abilities, due to external factors, get confused into believing they had something to do with their achievements...

    I believe the dodo is going to McLaren because he foolishly believes he's better then Hamilton, and can beat him in equal machinary... if you listen to any of his past whinges, it always centered on claims that he never had the car to fight the best...

    He has just shot himself in the foot... I just hope I can control my laughter next season...

  •  11-22-2009, 5:02 PM 891146 in reply to 891020

    Re: Brawn not marketing themselves pretty well!

    Agree with RE.

    Though I dont think Jenson has shot himself in the foot, I believe he will thoroughly enjoy the challenge he has set himself, but to him, even if he fails to match Lewis he will have had a second season in his career that he will have enjoyed because he will not have been hampered by a car that is not equal to his own self belief. He may well be deluded and may end up slightly disillusioned, but all in all happy.

    His options. the Brawn he may well acknowledge had an edge at the beginning of last season but not at the end. So his chances for yet another frustrating year at Bar/Honda/Brawn/Mercedes would have been a case of i've been there done that and hated it. Now as any driver he takes a gamble on how good next years car will be, but betting chances the Mclaren will be up there with whever else gets a race winning car, it may well be a case of different cars for different circuits.

    To add to his challenge he now knows he has a teammate that will be equal to the car, and the prospect of having to keep his own performance at the leading edge is what it is that excites him, as he has been in the other zone all too long, where no matter how well he drove he simply did not have the car under him.

    I do believe that it is this challenge that will add to Jensons motivation not deter from it. He knows whatever Lewis does in the car he should be able to match.

    I'll hold judgement and will watch the hare and the tortoise concept at work.

     

     

  •  11-22-2009, 7:36 PM 891199 in reply to 891146

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    Since when did Button become a hero to the Brits? I thought the majority of you believed him to be no good? I mean, thats what you and your media have been saying for the past few years or so......Oh wait!!!! Its the band wagon, I get it.......so much for integrety. lol.
  •  11-22-2009, 9:07 PM 891228 in reply to 891199

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    i believe that brawn did not really want button that bad,brawn knew that mercedes was going to buy in and want two german drivers,so they did not pursue button to hard knowing he would feel unwanted and jump ship to elsewhere,when a team wants a driver bad they do not act the way that brawn did with button,as far as the spy thing,what a bunch of hooeyConfused
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